Lost lost MATTE PROOF?!?

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I don't understand. You say you are showing pictures after a second acetone bath but the pictures show a coin in an old, beat up, 2x2 cardboard holder. So you want us to believe that you took the coin out of the holder, washed it, and then put it back in the old holder? Why are some of the pictures in the holder and some out of the holder. Instead of rehashing all of this why not just send it in to a TPG? Then when you prove us naysayers wrong I can eat a bug.

 

I was typing up the same thing lol

 

It was never in a 2x2 before. Just had it raw in a penny sleeve. Yes, after both acetone baths and restoration I put her in the only 2x2 I had....which is indeed very old, lol.

The one picture out of the 2x2 was right before I put her inside this old one.

 

I forsee a YouTube video coming from this with smoke and mirrors and fuzzy images ..

I thought he had it certified already .. and took it out to clean it ?!?!

 

Hahahaha! Will do after this pandemic and after I receive my $1,200 stimulus check!

Don't worry, it's getting sent out as soon as I can make it happen. Trust me

 

Nice kitty

 

I don’t really trust you to be honest.

 

Save your money. It was a $10 coin before you damaged it.

 

You're welcome

 

I just do not see the die markers. The pictures are so pixelated it looks like dots and bumps all over the place.

 

We're from the government and we are here to help. That is their long way of saying Trust Me. The two of y'all are just alike.

Again PCGS nor NGC will grade that coin as a matte proof. There are no AU, VF, F or G matte proofs. You have a $5 coin that nobody wants.

 

Wrong. Try doing some research. I know of at least 7 or more graded examples under PR60. Most by ANACS, and a few by PCGS.

Once a proof, always a proof.....regardless of grade.

 

Care to show or provide a link?

 

What did ANACS say about the 1909 matte proof you where going to send last summer? You said you would post the results.

https://www.cointalk.com/threads/1909-matte-proof-lincoln-rev-die-2.343047/

Thanks @Dave Waterstraat for remembering this

 

Never went to ANACS, as a very low grade and a cleaned extremely impaired 1909 MPL would sell for peanuts. I use it as a raw studying tool now.

I can assure you this one is going to ANACS though. You better believe that.

Here's 3 new pictures I just took.

Pic. 1.) 2 artificial light sources, through 2x2.
Pic. 2.) Natural sunlight and no artificial light sources, through 2x2.
Pic. 3.) Natural sunlight and no artificial light sources, through 2x2.

No editing or effects have been added to these pictures whatsoever. Only auto-brightness to reduce natural glare.

1.)


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3.)

 

Because eight pages of this is just not quite enough.....

 

And still no head on photos of the obverse.

 

@Hunting Rare let's have a little talk. I'm going to post a 1910 Lincoln cent that I purchased in an NGC slab graded MS65. This coin exhibited all the markers to be a real Matte Proof. Markers that are die striations, gouges, even an indentation beneath the second 1 of the date where the 0 from 1909 had been removed from the hub and turned into 1910. Here are some pictures:



Die Gouge at E in WE


Die Scratch under M in UNUM


Now I was fairly convinced this was a misattributed matte proof. With the help of a forum member @robec I was able to see the markers for a 1910 matte proof. I even emailed NGC with pictures saying that they might have misattributed this coin, this was their response.


This is a very important email. The topic of retired matte proof dies being used to strike business strikes has been debatable.

Now for kicks. I cracked it out of the NGC slab.
This is the edge.
It is hard to see in this pic but the edge is even reflective, like that of a proof.

I then sent this 1910 to PCGS, raw, as a matte proof. They sent it back as an MS64. Not a proof once again. You see, these coins are very hard to differentiate between business strikes and proofs. The last factor comes down to a term called "coiner's intent" where based on strike and a little eye appeal, we must determine if a coin with all the markers but yet no strong strike that would have been carried out in the medals room of the Philadelphia Mint. And that is where it all comes down to. Not the dies, but was it struck in the working floor of the Philadelphia mint or the medals room with a slower working press.

Can OP answer definitively and say that their coin was minted in the medals room of the Philadelphia Mint? Probably not.

This is my real 1910 matte proof undergraded PF62 by ANACS.