Bought another coin that I already have.

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by bcuda, Mar 23, 2020.

  1. bcuda

    bcuda El Ibérico loco

    Well I went and bought another coin that I already have.
    This one was calling my name and I just had to have it.
    The artistic detail on the obverse for this particular type of coin
    is not very common in my opinion.

    s-l500castulo nice.jpg

    Castulo Ancient Spain
    Before 214/12 BC.
    Obv: Diademed youthful male
    head right / Bull standing
    right, crescent above.
    Æ Half Unit
     
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  3. bcuda

    bcuda El Ibérico loco

    Here is one of mine that is the more common of the artistic style I usually see.

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  4. QuintupleSovereign

    QuintupleSovereign Well-Known Member

    I have this issue, too. It's gotten to the point where I now have triplicates of some coins yet can't bear to part with them.
     
  5. GenX Enthusiast

    GenX Enthusiast Forensic grammatician

    Wow. I have to reevaluate my weak interest in ancients. It seems you can get pieces, heavy with history and beauty, for not too much money and you can HANDLE them. Bonkers.
     
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  6. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I kept two, too. There is quite a difference between them.
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  7. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    IBERIAN Castulo 2.jpg
    IBERIAN
    AE Semis
    OBVERSE: Young male head right, Phoenician letter before
    REVERSE: Bull right, crescent above, two Phoenicial letters below
    Struck at Castulo Late 1st century BC
    15.6mm, 1.8g
    Burgos 897
     
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  8. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Ssh! You'll let the secret out! ;)

    @bcuda- I love the artistic portrait on that one and can definitely see why you kept it! The patina is awesome, too.
     
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  9. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    @Bing ... are you SURE that is a bull on the reverse?
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  10. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Only Iberian Bull that I have:

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    RImp Spain Lepida-Clesa Lepidus 44-36BCE C Balbus L Porcius Colonia Victrix Ivlia Lepida Victory - Bull holed RPI 262 plate 19
     
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  11. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    Despite the attribution, is it possible that the top coin is an imitation of the bottom?

    For that matter, might bcuda's 2nd coin be an imitation of his OP?
     
  12. doucet

    doucet Well-Known Member

    My two cents worth.

    bcuda's 2nd coin is most likely ACIP 2116. The S shaped symbol on the obverse is not there because it's off the flan. It's not an imitation of the first coin. The reverse has the M shaped Iberian letter (S) before the bull.
    My example:
    castulo semis with s.jpg

    bcuda 2nd coin rev.jpg bcud 2nd coin.jpg



    bcuda's 1st coin is likely ACIP 2131. I don't have one of those.

    Doug's 2nd coin is, I think, the same attribution as bcuda's 1st coin, ACIP 2116.
    Although, from a different die, it was a much better, and superb strike. The legend is worn, but you can still see the last letter. Again, bcuda's coin does not show the legend.

    smit castulo.jpg

    smitbcuda castulo.jpg



    Doug's 1st coin is likely ACIP 2149. There is probably a palm branch under the encrustation before the bust.


    Bing's type of Castulo is not covered in the ACIP, but it is in Burgos.
    In my copy it's listed as 572 Sextante?, 1.8g.
     
  13. bcuda

    bcuda El Ibérico loco

    @doucet here are two more of my variants of these coins. One of them is like your coin @dougsmit

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    Last edited: Mar 24, 2020
  14. bcuda

    bcuda El Ibérico loco

    Also have one like @Bing has.
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  15. bcuda

    bcuda El Ibérico loco

    @doucet I also have some with the wild pig on the back. Last one with the pig has the same style of obverse as the very first coin posted in this thread.

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  16. doucet

    doucet Well-Known Member

    Yep

    I like the bilingual coin above with the boar CN FVL. I really want to get one of those.

    All your coins are quite nice.
     
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  17. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio

    @bcuda interesting coin, I like the patina

    One of the things I like about most of my ancient coins is they can be held! Some are a bit fragile and should be only handled with care.
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    Each time I look at this lot, I wonder if I should clean them. So far I have avoided that. It is interesting to see how many different sizes of cut coins were used. I wonder if 1/4th of a 20 gram was worth the same as 1/2 of a 10 gram coin or a whole 5 gram coin.
     
  18. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

    nice coin @bcuda - is this finer style typical of earlier coins? I note that mine was dated early 1st century - and is there any known meaning to the monogram/letter on obverse? There is something appealing to me about the portrait on this coin:
    Castulo 100 BC Bull.jpg Ancient Spain, Castulo, early 1st Century BC, Æ,
    Obv: Diademed male head right, iberian "ka" before
    Rev: Bull standing right; L and crescent above
    Size: 18.5mm, 4.71g
    Ref: CNH pg. 337, 52; SNG BM Spain 1359, ACIP 2156
     
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