Horse Coins

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  1. SeptimusT

    SeptimusT Well-Known Member

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    Chach Oasis, Kabarna, c. AD 600 – 700. 23mm, 2.03g, Shagalov 62.
    Obverse
    : Horseman right within circular border
    Reverse: Tamgha of Kabarna surrounded by Sogdian legend, pny cpgw g'g'n 'Coin of the Khagan's Yabghu (Viceroy)'
     
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  3. Numiser

    Numiser Well-Known Member

    Maybe I've been cooped up too long and have severe coin pareidolia and see Roy Rogers on a horse. Or, is that Roy on a Roo?
    I think I'm getting cabin fever.
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  4. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio

    I like flying horses, especially big ones.
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  5. J.T. Parker

    J.T. Parker Well-Known Member

    OK Wilurrrs,
    Enough with the horsing-around.
    Regards,
    Mr. Ed
     
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  6. Broucheion

    Broucheion Well-Known Member

    Hi All, My only Ptolemaic horsies.

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    Ptolemy III Euergetes (246-222 BCE)
    Asia Minor, Cilicia, probably Tarsus ca 278 BCE (After Tarsus' Capture by Ptolemy II)
    Size:
    19x20mm
    Weight: 6.66 g
    Die Axis: 01:00
    Undertype: SC-0565; WSM-1313η (Antiochus II); Koln 59; SNG Spaer 348A
    OBV: Dioscuri, wearing pointed caps surmounted by stars, and holding their spears upright, mounted on prancing horses moving to right. At 10:00
    position ountermark of Ptolemaic eagle, wings closed, facing right within circular punch. Dotted border.
    REV: Athena Promachos standing, with spear and shield, brandishing javelin in right hand, shield in left hand, anchor with flukes left below. In left field:
    [ΒΑ]ΣΙΛΕΩΣ; In right field: ΑΝΤΙΟΧΟΥ. No control. Plain border.

    So far, there is no evidence that Ptolemy III struck bronze coinage in Cilicia. Instead, it appears that his policy was to countermark bronze coins already circulating in the area. ET Newell (1941) identified as Ptolemaic the eagle countermark that appears on bronzes of Antiochus II from the Tarsus mint (WSM 1312γ & 1313η], with discussion of the countermark on p 223); for another example, see Koln 59. The Ptolemaic eagle countermark also appears on a civic bronze of Adana in the RN Draskowski collection.

    ET Newell (1941, pp 222-223) attributed this series to Tarsus during the Ptolemaic occupation of 246-243. Davesne redated the series to the Second Syrian War, specifically to the short period from the end of 261 to 259. Davesne 's reattribution is persuasive, because there is a break in the Tarsian coinage of Antiochus II that is filled by the following series, which displays control links to both the preceding and subsequent coinage.

    CC Lorber (EUROS, 2014): Alain Davesne showed that these coins interrupted the sequence of Antiochus II, and he proposed a date of issue in the early part of the Second Syrian War, specifically from the end of 261 to 259. ... Unfortunately, we know nothing about Tarsus under Ptolemy II except that his dominance was only an interlude.

    - Broucheion
     
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  7. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    I only own two coins of the Republic ...both common and feature horses ..

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    and one fouree...

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  8. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Some real beauties you’ve got Alegandron! Man O man, that Punic Trishekel IS Black beauty.
    I also enjoy these animal themed threads. here’s some if my favorite:
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  9. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Nice horse coins everyone! I think I have horse inspired coins from every century/ here are a batch... 2e53b29443f1a025c5b3efb93b27d41f.jpg 4f448c3300d29637d7e757d919eacbe1.jpg 8fe03fe9cbf509caca58cf215c26199b.jpg 32ffc6a783af9ff7c46623a5bc4c7e23.jpg 77a7023ddff92ec7f162b2a8434e778d.jpg cunobelinus-classic-a-twin-tendrils-4155862-S.jpg netherlands-5293038-S.jpg 590c4d570866eddd0467e2ec204cc38f.jpg 0bb3927b7d682e67c1f6f6daa9795eed.jpg strong-raunds-wing-strong-c-55-45-bc-gold-5655980-XL.jpg
     
  10. Limes

    Limes Well-Known Member

    Some really nice coins shown here. And i cannot believe @panzerman actually posted a non-gold coin! What's going on here??

    I have several coins with horses, which is kind of ironic because in realy life I am scared of them. They are kind of big, and bite, and kick, and can crush you. Romans knew that:
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    (coin reverse is not best of detail, but yes, Caracalla and his horse are stepping on a little figure)
     
  11. Orielensis

    Orielensis Well-Known Member

    Alright, this could become a voluminous thread. Here are some horses we haven't had yet:

    Carthaginian horse overstruck on top of another horse:
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    Carthage, AE17, late 4th or early 3rd c. BC, Sicilian mint. Obv: male head r., flanked by grain ears. Rev: galloping horse r. 17mm, 3.59g. Ref: MAA 19; SNG Copenhagen (Africa) 120; Sylloge Numorum Punicorum 128. Struck over MAA 18; Sylloge Nummorum Punicorum 194 (head of Tanit/horse standing in front of palm tree).

    Numidian horse:

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    Kings of Numidia, Massinissas or Micipsa, ca. 203–118 BC, AE31. Obv: head of king (?), laureate, l. Rev: horse galloping l.; below, pellet. 31mm, 20.15g. Ref: SNG Copenhagen 505–7; MAA 18a.

    I guess the Kentucky Derby is cancelled this year, isn't it? Otherwise, we would have seen many of these horses:
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    Roman Republic, moneyer: L. Calpurnius Piso Frugi, AR denarius, 90 BC, Rome mint. Obv: laureate head of Apollo r.: control marks. Rev: L PISO FRVGI; horseman galloping r. with palm-branch; control mark CVI. 18mm, 3.77g. Ref: RRC 340/1.

    I usually refrain from posting anything post 1500 in the ancients forum, but I couldn't resist adding a destrier in full armour and caparison to this thread. Forgive me, please!

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    County of Mansfeld-Eisleben, Johann Georg III, AR ⅓ Taler, 1669 AD, Eisleben mint. Obv: (anchor) IOHAN. GEORG. COM. IN. MANSFELT. NOB ; 1/3; St. George on horseback r., slaying dragon with lance; on horse’s saddle, arms of Mansfeld-Eisleben. Rev: (anchor) DOM. IN. H. S. ET. S. FORTITER. ET. CONSTANTER; 16-69; crowned coat of arms of Mansfeld-Eisleben; AB-K for moneyer Anton Bernhard Koburger. 32.5mm, 9.12g. Ref: Tornau 493; KM #118.
     
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  12. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    Mr. Ed

    By Jay Livingston and Ray Evans

    Hello, I'm Mr. Ed!

    A horse is a horse, of course, of course
    And no one can talk to a horse of course
    That is, of course, unless the horse is the famous Mr. Ed!

    Go right to the source and ask the horse
    He'll give you the answer that you'll endorse
    He's always on a steady course
    Talk to Mr. Ed!

    People yakkity yak a streak and waste your time of day
    But Mister Ed will never speak unless he has something to say

    A horse is a horse, of course, of course
    And this one'll talk 'til his voice is hoarse
    You never heard of a talking horse?

    Well listen to this...

    I am Mister Ed!

    Here's the flying horse, Pegasus, purchased from MA Shops a while ago...

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  13. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    I've heard of car pooling, but horse pooling?
     
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  14. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Lol, yeah, I thought those pics were hilarious. Grew up with horses here in the States. Rarely, if ever rode with two on a horse, and I never liked it. I druther had the horse to myself. Closer bond, and more horse-human partnership.

    @Ryro likee Trishekels? Here’s anuther’n:

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    Carthage AE Trishekel Tanit Horse 220-215 BCE 2nd Punic War 30mm 19.7g Lot 36
     
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  15. FitzNigel

    FitzNigel Medievalist

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    Roger I, r. 1072-1101 (1098-1101)
    Mileto Mint, AE Trifollaro, 28.04 mm x 8.3 grams
    Obv.: ROG [ERVS] COME +S. Roger, mounted left wearing Norman helm, holding kite shield and striped banner
    Rev.: + MARIA [MATE]R DNI (’N’ retrograde). Enthroned nimbate Virgin Mary holding on lap Christ child, nimbate and in swaddling clothes right
    Ref.: NCKS 131var., De Wit 3789, MEC 14, 93
     
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  16. kazuma78

    kazuma78 Supporter! Supporter

    Here are some of my horses:
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  17. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    @kazuma78 , nice! Is the 3rd coin a Celt ?

    And, hey, I am always a big fan of Trigas! Yours is nice.

    Mine: (Repost)

    I have both of the Trigas, albeit in a more pedestrian presentation:

    1) Pulcher Mallius Mancinus Urbinius

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    RR Pulcher Mallius Mancinus Urbinius 111-110 BCE AR Den TRIGA Sear 176 Cr 299/1a

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    RR Clodius Pulcher T Mallius AR Den 111-110 BCE ERROR Flipover Double-Strike Roma Triga Cr 299/1b Sear 176


    2) Naevius Balbus:

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    RR Naevius Balbus 79 BCE AR Den Venus SC TRIGA Sulla Sear 309 Cr 382/1


    WHY a TRIGA?: The third horse was usually an older/experienced horse for Bigas and Quadrigas. It was used a guide or training horse for the two younger horses on the Biga..
     
  18. kazuma78

    kazuma78 Supporter! Supporter

    Yep! It's a lower Danube celts tetradrachm. And I like your trigas also, the serrated balbus one is pretty neat.
     
  19. Only a Poor Old Man

    Only a Poor Old Man Well-Known Member

    That Phillip stater is exceptional. Do you have a bigger pic so we can admire it in all its glory? :)
     
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  20. Curtisimo

    Curtisimo the Great(ish)

    AMCC 2: My First BCD Coin! Post your examples also!
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    Thessaly, Krannon
    AE Chalkous, struck ca. 350-300 BC
    Dia.: 15.4 mm
    Wt.: 2.41 g
    Obv.: Thessalian rider and horse, rearing right
    Rev.: KPAN Bull butting right, trident above
    Ref.: BCD Thessaly II 118.5; HGC 4, 391
    Ex zumbly collection; Ex BCD collection with tag stating “V. Ex Thess., Apr. 94, DM 35”; Ex AMCC 2, Lot 5 (Nov. 9, 2019)


    The Story of the Coin Struck to Fight Hannibal: The First Denarius and its Influence
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    Roman Republic
    Second Punic War (218 – 201 BC)
    Anonymous AR Denarius, Rome Mint, struck ca. 211 BC
    Wt.: 4.2 g
    Dia.: 20 mm
    Obv.: Helmeted head of Roma right. X in left field
    Rev.: Dioscuri galloping right. ROMA in exergue and partially incuse on raised tablet
    Ref.: Crawford 44/5. Sydenham 167. RBW 169.
    Ex Numismatic Ars Classica Auction 100 Part II, Lot 1368 (May 30, 2017)


    An Aqueduct, a Statue and an Elegant Portrait of Roma
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    Roman Republic
    Mn. Aemelius Lepidus
    AR Denarius, Rome mint, struck ca. 114-113 BC
    Dia.: 18 mm
    Wt.: 3.83 g
    Obv.: ROMA, ligate MA; Laureate, diademed and draped bust of Roma, right. * behind.
    Rev.: MN AEMILIO; Equestrian statue right on three arches, L E P between arches.
    Ref.: Crawford 291/1
    Ex zumbly Collection (AMCC Auction 1, lot 112; December 1, 2018), Ex Demetrios Armounta Collection (CNG E-Auction 325, lot 490; April 23, 2014), Purchased from Colosseum Coin Exchange (with tag)


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    Roman Empire
    Philip I the Arab (AD 244-249)
    AR Antoninianus, Rome mint, struck ca. AD 245
    Dia.: 23 mm
    Wt.: 4.36 g
    Obv.: IMP M IVL PHILIPPVS AVG; Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Rev.: ADVENTVS AVGG; Philip on horseback left, raising right hand and holding spear
    Ref.: RIC IV 26b
    Ex David Kallai (ca. 1908-1924); Ex AMCC 2, lot 194 (Nov. 9, 2019)


    My First ADVENTVS Coin
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    Roman Empire
    Philip I the Arab (AD 244-249)
    AR Antoninianus, Rome mint, struck ca. AD 245
    Obv.: IMP M IVL PHILIPPVS AVG; Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Rev.: ADVENTVS AVGG; Philip on horseback left, raising right hand and holding spear
    Ref.: RIC IV 26b
    Ex. Savoca 23rd Blue Auction (Aug. 2019)


    A Lifetime Issue of Alexander the Great with Interesting Interpretations
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    KINGS OF MACEDON: Alexander III 'the Great' (336-323 BCE), lifetime issue.
    AE15 “half unit.” Macedonian mint.
    Dia.: 15 mm
    Wt.: 4.13 g
    Obv: Diademed head right.
    Rev: AΛEΞANΔPOY, Horse prancing right; below, torch.
    Ref.: Price 338.
    Ex AMCC 2, lot 23 (Nov. 9, 2019)
     
  21. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Wow! I've never received so many "Likes" from just a single post. Thanks, everyone!
    ~ Chris
     
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