To star or not to star - official game thread

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by ddddd, Jan 31, 2019.

  1. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Yep this one made an appearance in the QC/NT vs MA/AT thread and had more votes for QC than MA, so I’m not surprised by the results of the no star vote.
     
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  3. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Floor is open...
     
  4. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Not my coin, it's another member here. But I did image it.

    MS62


    1881 $1 MS62 closeup - Copy (2).jpg

    1881 $1 MS62 closeup - Copy (1).jpg
     
  5. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    I’ll say yes
    ...it looks likes the obverse is pl, which would qualify it for the star
     
  6. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    Yes, same as ddddd.
     
  7. GenX Enthusiast

    GenX Enthusiast Forensic grammatician

    Grade looks good, plus star. Got character.
     
  8. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Anyone else 1881 MS62 before I post the answer?
     
  9. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    I'm leaning towards a star as well.
     
  10. BuffaloHunter

    BuffaloHunter Short of a full herd Supporter

    I vote star on the MS62 1881.
     
  11. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Definite star
     
  12. GoldBug999

    GoldBug999 Well-Known Member

    I'm not sure - how many of those scratches on the obverse are on the holder, and not the coin?
     
  13. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Any scratches / marks you are seeing are almost definitely on-coin. This slab was very clean.
     
  14. GoldBug999

    GoldBug999 Well-Known Member

    In that case, no star.
     
  15. Coinsandmedals

    Coinsandmedals Well-Known Member

    I vote yes for the star on the 1881.
     
  16. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Okay, here are the results, most of you are correct. Clearly the Obverse if PL, but the reverse fails, hence the "close but no cigar" STAR.

    The Trifecta! Star, Plus, CAC

    1881-$1-MS62-plus-star-cac.jpg
     
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  17. GoldBug999

    GoldBug999 Well-Known Member

    Shows you what I know!
     
  18. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Summary:
    Rd. 1: 1955-S MS 64 1c (NO Star) --> Should it star? -->Yes: 2 vs No: 11

    Rd. 2: 1885-O MS 65 $1 (NO Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 4 vs No: 3

    Rd. 3: 1813 50c (NO Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 2 vs No: 9

    Rd. 4: 1835 50c (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 4

    Rd. 5: 1821 50c (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 2 vs No: 4

    Rd. 6: 1947-D 5c (NO Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 6 vs No: 2

    Rd. 7: 1882-S $1 MS 63 (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 0 vs No: 8

    Rd. 8: 1882-S $1 MS 67 (NO Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 2 vs No: 8

    Rd. 9: Darth Morgan (NO Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 5

    Rd. 10: 1820 Cent (NO Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 2 vs No: 5

    Rd. 11: Swiss Silver (NO Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 4

    Rd. 12: 1940 50c (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 4 vs No: 3

    Rd. 13: Israel Lira (NO Star*^) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 4 vs No: 0

    Rd. 14: 1937-D 5c (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:2 vs No: 0

    Rd. 15: 1885 Morgan (No Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:0 vs No: 12

    Rd. 16: 1958-D Franklin (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:0 vs No: 7

    Rd. 17: 1958-D Franklin #2 (No Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:1 vs No: 6

    Rd. 18: 1958-D Franklin #3 (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:5 vs No: 2

    Rd. 19: 1881-S Morgan (No Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:4 vs No: 3

    Rd. 20: 1884-O Morgan (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:5 vs No: 2

    Rd. 21: 1874 PF Trade Dollar (No Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:1 vs No: 6

    Rd. 22: 1964 Kennedy (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:1 vs No: 7

    Rd. 23: 1958-D Franklin (No Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:6 vs No: 3

    Rd. 24: San Diego Commem (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:1 vs No: 5

    Rd. 25: 1886 $1 (Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 7 vs No: 0

    Rd. 26: 1887 $1 (No Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 0 vs No: 7

    Rd. 27: 1880-S $1 (Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 4 vs No: 3

    Rd. 28: 1963 PF 5c (No Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 5 vs No: 0

    Rd. 29: 1968 PF 50c (No Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 5

    Rd. 30: 1880-S $1 (Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 0 vs No: 6

    Rd. 31: 1880-S $1 (Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 2 vs No: 3

    Rd. 32: 1886 $1 (No Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 2 vs No: 5

    Rd. 33: 1882-S $1 (Star)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 4 vs No: 6

    Rd. 34: 1887 $1 (Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 6

    Rd. 35: 1900 India Rupee (No Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 5 vs No: 3

    Rd. 36: 1880-S $1 (Star)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 8 vs No: 0

    Rd. 37: 1918 Lincoln 50c (Star)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 8

    Rd. 38: 1886 Morgan MS 65 (No Star)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 2 vs No: 7

    Rd. 39: 1884-O Morgan MS 65 (Star)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 8

    Rd. 40: Ireland 1/2D PR 63 (PCGS coin)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 2 vs No: 5

    Rd. 41: 1949 Swiss Medal MS 65 (No Star)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 5 vs No: 3

    Rd. 42: 1830 AU 50 50c (PCGS coin)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 3 vs No: 2

    Rd. 43: 1881-S Morgan (No star)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 5 vs No: 4

    Rd. 44: 1904-O Morgan (No star*^)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 0 vs No: 6

    Rd. 45: 1964 PF Kennedy (Star)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 0 vs No: 9

    Rd. 46: 1884-O Morgan MS 63 (No Star)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 0 vs No: 7

    Rd. 47: 1892 Columbian MS 64 (No Star)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 4 vs No: 3

    Rd. 48: 1974 Silver Ike PF 69 (Star)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 4 vs No: 3

    Rd. 49: 1928 Peace $1 (No Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 0 vs No: 6

    Totals:
    No Star currently on holder, but deserves it: 10
    No Star currently on holder and doesn't deserve it: 16
    Star currently on holder and deserves it: 8
    Star currently on holder, but doesn't deserve it: 13
    PCGS holder, but deserves it upon crossover: 1
    PCGS holder and doesn't deserve it upon crossover: 1

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    Non-toned/PL category:
    ~ 1871 5c (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 5 vs No: 1
    ~ 1960 1c PF68 CAM (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 4
    ~ 1881 (P) $1 MS 62 (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 7 vs No: 1
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    *^ = signifies a coin that was most likely graded before the star designation was used for its respective series
     
  19. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Hey, you're learning and that's what matters. :)

    By the way, the star can be awarded even if a coin is low end for the grade (per NGC see below). In this case, the coin also has a plus. So, NGC concluded it was a high end 62 and had a PL obverse.


    "NGC defines its star ([​IMG]) designated coins as those that have exceptional eye appeal. The coin itself could fall anywhere within the grade it is assigned, i.e.: if it were an MS 64 it could be at the lower end, mid-range or higher end of that grade"

    https://www.ngccoin.com/news/article/806/
     
  20. GoldBug999

    GoldBug999 Well-Known Member

    I have learned a lot here, and I really appreciate it!!!
     
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  21. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Ok, star or no star? Graded by NGC.

    [​IMG]
     
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