2018 penny error ... CONTINUED

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by GARY R COYIER, Mar 19, 2020.

  1. GARY R COYIER

    GARY R COYIER Well-Known Member

    Would like some feedback on these 2018 's. My first post was a strike thru, and someone had asked if there could possibly be more. My grandson found two coins DSCN2071.JPG DSCN2181.JPG DSCN2188.JPG DSCN2193.JPG DSCN2201.JPG DSCN2219.JPG that have the same look and placement, what do you think?
     
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  3. spirityoda

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  4. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    It is impossible that they are from the same accumulation of compacted grease & debris that fell from the die. ~ Chris
     
  5. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    The Strike through on the left is totally different from the other two. Even though it's in the same general area it is not an issue from the same die. The other two are progressive. The one on the right being a later stage of the strike through.. meaning progression.

    I used the letter P in E PLURIBUS UNUM as a reference point. The one on the left is a complete letter P and the other two show half of the letter P
     
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  6. GARY R COYIER

    GARY R COYIER Well-Known Member

    Just thought maybe they were some sort of progression. Weird. Interesting. The one on the left was found first, the other two found close together in time.
     
  7. MeowtheKitty

    MeowtheKitty Well-Known Member

    Meow thinks it is really neat. Great addition to anyone's hoard.
     
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  8. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Cool strike thru's Gary!
     
  9. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    They are from the same die and were most likely found in the same roll or box of new coins from the mint. If you do a lot of roll searching like I used to do of new coins it is quite easy to find coins from the same die because the way the coins go into the same bin as they are being made they usually get put in rolls together.What happened here was some mint grease got mixed with all kinds of debris on the die and hardened. It stayed on the die and kept striking coins until it wore off or finally come loose. I have two of the most awesome Minnesota state quarter coins here somewhere that are identical and looks like a bomb exploded in the trees , there are numerous round sunken in areas going up the reverse of the coins. And on the obverse Washington's head has a sunken in round area on each of them . I found them in the rolls the extra tree coins come from .
     
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  10. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    I disagree and I gave my explanation a few posts back why.
     
  11. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    If the OP wants to prove these are from the same die there may be a identical die marker on the obverse or maybe reverse of each one of them. The die may have struck hundreds of the struck thrus before it come clear.This is nothing unusual now days .
     
  12. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    The OP never stated they were from the same Die nor wanted to prove it.. He ask for our help. I answered the question. The Cent on the left is different from the Cent in the middle and the right. Those two were struck from the same Die. Read my post!
     
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  13. GARY R COYIER

    GARY R COYIER Well-Known Member

    Thanks everyone! We learn a lot from these discussions. These coins were not found in a single roll, or at the same time, one by "grandpa Gary" and the other two by "Braeden"( He is very happy)!
     
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  14. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    I agree with paddyman98. I could see some sort of progression with the last two but not the first one.
     
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  15. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    Hi Gary I was just trying to help you with your coins. Sometimes folks collect die progression coins. If you would like to confirm they came from the same die look at both sides and you may be able to find a small die scratch, die gouge , etc that is what us collectors calls a die marker to confirm them as from the same die . If you don't want me on your post let me know and I will not bother you anymore. If you need my help I will help you for as long as I can stay on here .I have been off here for years because of health reasons and only been back for about 3 days and now a few members are calling me Avery . Well I am not Avery and don't appreciate the name calling.
     
  16. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    Hey good to see you again . I remember you from a few back on here. I had to take a long break due to some really serious health reasons. On these struck thru grease coins the progression can start out small on the die and build up as it goes or vice versa. It can even clog up the entire surface of a die over a long time of use.
     
  17. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    Good to see you back and hopefully in much better health. I sometimes go off the rails with my comments (not related to the topic) but enjoy the mostly friendly banter with other CT members.

    Regarding the three coins in this post, the placement and orientation of the strike through of the first coin is offset and rotated from the other two, even though the look is similar. I can see the progression in the last two since the placement and orientation looks identical. I'm definitely no expert and just an observation.

    Again, glad to see you back!
     
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  18. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    I can easily see your point here . They really do look quite a bit different. The struck thru grease coins can be confusing because the grease filled debris can keep shifting out of place on the die as it keeps striking coins. These are so common on our modern coins it is hard to tell what they will end up being worth. I usually keep the better looking ones . Maybe a grand kid may be able to sell them someday.
     
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  19. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    You can't always rely on a marker from the obverse to show a progression on the reverse because the obverse die may have been swapped for another one. ~ Chris
     
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  20. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Great looking errors. Some of the nicest strike through I've seen in a long time.
     
  21. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Could you find room on the bed for these? I think there great
     
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