The Old Saying Is True...."don't buy problem coins...you will regret it.."

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  1. GenX Enthusiast

    GenX Enthusiast Forensic grammatician

    That is an extraordinary coin, never seen such nice hair and beads on such an old lady;)
     
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  3. Magnus87

    Magnus87 Active Member

    Re your last paragraph, Amen, brother! I’ve got lots of ‘em & I’m pretty fond - still - of just about all all of them. But then, my wife & I tend to pick up strays (including, especially, inanimate ones). So, to Eduard I would say only that I don’t find his coin at all regrettable. To me it just suggests nothing more unsightly than a favorite old comfortable pair of shoes.
    Dave S
     
  4. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    Sometimes that's when layaway comes in handy. Helps you keep a coin you can't quite afford at the time into a range that is.
     
  5. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I'm sorry that's gotta be at last an AU-deets. Strong strike, deep fields, and appears to have a decent amount of luster.
    Criminally undergraded, just a shame it's details :(
     
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  6. edwin sandel

    edwin sandel New Member

    I have a 1890-cc which has never been conserved ( cleaned) or restored but we all want a shinny great looking coin which i feel would give it a mirror like finish and possibly a ms65. I am concerned that using the conservation or restoration process at ANACS or PCGS might actually ruin it but as it is now I would grade mine at MS 63 . I see shinny looking ones that are graded at ms 64 and mine would be that or better if shinny. What do you think??
     
  7. sambyrd44

    sambyrd44 Well-Known Member

    Thats' a great coin. The scratches have toned over to a large degree. To me its a lot more impressive then a white market acceptable example.
     
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  8. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    In reference to the title of this thread, the way I learned it was:
    "If you buy a coin with a problem, you'll always have a coins with a problem."

    I only have two DETAILS coins; both have a relatively high Rarity Number.
    The decision to buy them was based on the fact that I wouldn't be able to afford either coin if they had original surfaces.
    And I've got a bid out on a third DETAILS coin; same reason.
     
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  9. atcarroll

    atcarroll Well-Known Member

    I had one tone almost like that, but only on the obverse. It started blast white, but after a year lying face up on my oak nightstand the obverse was pretty close to your coin.
     
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  10. atcarroll

    atcarroll Well-Known Member

    Shiny. The word you're looking for is shiny. Shinny means to climb up something, like "shinny up the drainpipe".
     
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  11. jgrinz

    jgrinz Senior Member

    I bought it and knew it was a problem coin - its been cleaned and pressed through debris and has scratches But A nice VAM-3A though :) Clashed T_N and M near date, Doubled 1 and 7


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  12. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    They will not clean (conserve) a toned coin. If you want a brilliant one, sell the one you have and buy a white one.
    Dipping it is the only way to get the tarnish off, and there are no guarantees on how it will come out.
     
  13. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    While I do not know silver well, I suspect a DIP strong enough to remove the tarnish will also remove the luster and prevent it from receiving higher MS designations. So your suggestion that he sell the toned coin and purchase a brilliant coin is very sound advice.

    Very few attempts at conservation actually improve the coin and they are lucky if they can simply inhibit future damage. I'm thinking of treating verdigris on copper coins, but it may apply to silver as well.
     
  14. gronnh20

    gronnh20 Well-Known Member

    I have always heard shimmy. I had to look up shinny. Although, I will keep using shimmy, shinny is the correct word for a definition of a type of climbing. Good vocab lesson.
     
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  15. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    I've bought a couple details early copper for my 7070 album; no way I would shell out that kind of money for a higher grade raw coin to stick in an album.
     
  16. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I bought this one raw and watched it turn in the holder over the years.
    1884-pr62rd.jpg
     
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  17. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    I bought a nice red 1904 IHC a number of years ago from a dealer at a local show in Lawton Oklahoma. In a couple of months it turned a dark blue.
     
  18. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Isn't "shimmy" something your car does so the mechanic can charge you an arm and a leg? ~ Chris
     
  19. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    First, welcome to the neighborhood, Edwin! It would help if you could provide good, clear photos of your Morgan.

    Also, I agree with ........

    ....and......

    ~ Chris
     
  20. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    Just squirt some oil on your shocks and tell you that you need new shocks.
     
  21. mynamespat

    mynamespat Well-Known Member

    Shimmy shimmy ya'll shimmy yah shimmy ya
     
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