1850 $50 gold slug used by pioners california

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  1. H3R0

    H3R0 New Member

    i would like some information on this coin and was wondering how much it would cost
     
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  3. Daggarjon

    Daggarjon Supporter**

    is it a coin, or a gold 'slug? do you have a picture?

    sorry i cant be of any help :)

    oh! and welcome to the forum :)
     
  4. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

  5. H3R0

    H3R0 New Member

    the coin looks like that kind of but its double sided of the eagle and its like gold
     
  6. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

  7. H3R0

    H3R0 New Member

    no it kind has that logo but its on both sides and it doesnt look that sloppy its allot more neatly cut
     
  8. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

  9. H3R0

    H3R0 New Member

    dang none of those look like it
     
  10. H3R0

    H3R0 New Member

    im gonna take pictures please keep this page up im a history buff and someone gave me this for a good price and im in complete shock if its worth the amount i think its worth
     
  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    There are many fakes, see if you can find your coin - HERE
     
  12. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    There are several different $50 gold slugs, but I'm almost positive thatnone of them have the same or almost th same design on both sides. I also note that this is supposed to be an 1850 gold slug, but the eagle side of the slug does not contain the date. How do you know it is 1850?
     
  13. Mike mcallister

    Mike mcallister New Member

     
  14. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    If it looks more neatly cut than those shown on the Heritage link, chances are it's not authentic. These are big, 2.5 ounce chunks of a soft metal that pick up bumps and bruises like a 4-year-old at a playground. Post a weight in addition to the picture if you can measure it accurately.
     
  15. willieboyd2

    willieboyd2 First Class Poster

    I have two of the California Gold Discovery Centennial medals,
    they are quite interesting from a historical standpoint.

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    California Gold Discovery Centennial Medal - Miner Standing

    Obverse:
    Miner facing left standing in creek holding pan
    THE DAYS OF OLD - THE DAYS OF GOLD - THE DAYS OF FORTY NINE / CALIFORNIA

    Reverse:
    Copy of U.S. Assay Office $50 gold piece with eagle and shield
    IMITATION OF FAMOUS CALIFORNIA FIFTY DOLLAR GOLD SLUG, USED BY THE PIONEERS / 1850
    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA / FIFTY DOLLS. / 000 THOU.

    Brass, 41mm, 29.66gm
    Octagonal, coin orientation, Holabird and Kagin number J-149

    [​IMG]

    California Gold Discovery Centennial Medal - Miner Kneeling

    Obverse:
    Miner facing right kneeling in creek holding pan
    THE DAYS OF OLD - THE DAYS OF GOLD - THE DAYS OF FORTY NINE / CALIFORNIA

    Reverse:
    Copy of U.S. Assay Office $50 gold piece with eagle and shield
    IMITATION OF FAMOUS CALIFORNIA FIFTY DOLLAR GOLD SLUG, USED BY THE PIONEERS / 1850
    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA / FIFTY DOLLS. / 000 THOU.

    Brass, 42mm, 22.40gm
    Octagonal, coin orientation, Holabird and Kagin number J-132

    :)
     
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  16. russlle

    russlle New Member

    Not trying to hijack your thread I have a similar coin... at least I think and I cant find it either... I know it is not the actual coin... I have weighed it... I don't remember the weight off the top of my head but I remember it weighted less.... I have not been able to find it online either...
     

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  17. willieboyd2

    willieboyd2 First Class Poster

    Re: russelle's item:

    Many similar items to the octagonal "slugs" have been made over the years.

    A number were made for the 1948-1949 California Gold Rush Centennial.

    This item looks like one of them, the loop indicates that it was possibly made as a medallion.

    I would be curious about the diameter of this item.

    :)
     
  18. Judith Orr

    Judith Orr New Member

    I have one of these coins in a octagon holder with a loop on it. It reads on the holder: memento of famous California fifty dollar gold slug, used by the pioneers. On the coin itself, it has eagles on both sides, with WE TRUST above the eagles (on both sides) United States of America . Fifty Dolls Does this memento has a value, and would you know the gram weight without weighing the coin Thanks!
     
  19. willieboyd2

    willieboyd2 First Class Poster

    Judith, we need pictures to answer your questions.

    :)
     
  20. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Go to Google, type in: California Facsimile Slugs. You will find photos and a Reference Guide. I forgot who the author is. Some of these pieces are worth a little money, especially if they are in "as made" condition. The ones in my collection were all purchased long ago when they were not popular and sold for a few bucks as tokens. I have not seen one for sale now less than $40. I am aware that ICG has slabbed over two dozen. I was able to borrow their reference book on a CD overnight to see what I had.

    The chance of your piece being made of gold is a million to one. Sorry. If You post photos eventually, I'll get one of my friends to look it up on their CD
     
  21. Rson1982

    Rson1982 New Member

    I actually have the same question. I came across this coin and it is the exactly same double sided eagle that H3RO mentions above. Unfortunately I can't find any information, which makes me think it may be just an imitation coin and mostly likely much more recent than 1850.

    Front and back pictures attached. They are identical it seems to me.

    Any information is much appreciated.
     

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