NO added value doubling 1999 P nickel

Thought I would share this with the crowd. The date rules out an RPM, so I would like to know if this is from
a deteriorating die, or machine doubling ? I know it adds
no value over face but still think it is kind of cool.

 

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Very dramatic and a great question...I wanna know too.

 

It is just a form a machine doubling. If you like it keep it.

Machine doubling takes many forms. You can tell, because just like your example, it is flat and shelf like. The reason it may seem larger is because the upper left part of the P is missing

 

Not an offer, but I'd give a buck for that.

 

When looking at this MM, think of it as 2 MMs, the top one, which is the most discernible, and the bottom one which is only visible as "coming out from under" the top one.
Now, look at the top left corner of the top MM. It appears to have been "clipped" off.
Now, look at the top left corner of the bottom MM. It appears to have the "clipped" off portion of the top MM, as the corner, of it's top left corner.

You'll notice that the "clipped" portion of the top MM, and the entirety of the bottom MM, all appear to have moved in the same direction : to the top left or to the North West, depending on which verbiage you use.

Now, from these observations, I am deducing that this coin was a victim of a "bounce" strike. i.e. It was struck, the die bounced upwards slightly, then struck again, causing what we see.

The question then becomes : Why is there nothing similar visible elsewhere on the coin?

I have no answer to that question, other than to suggest there may be similar MD (that I think I'm seeing) on the reverse of this coin. A better photo of the reverse would help. As I understand bounce striking, it can affect both sides of a coin.

Now, to clarify, I am only providing conjecture and possibilities, based on my observation of this coin. I am not an expert nor a specialist on any coins or aspect of Numismatics.

We need more input from error specialists such as :

@Fred Weinberg
@paddyman98

 

Shoot. I would'a just said it was run over by a truck and left it at that.

 

Yes, Martha. It is interesting enough to keep, and add it to your oddities box for Show and Tell with your friends.

 

Looks like a great case of MD to me.

 

LOLOL Yeah, but I like going "in depth" with an analysis. Especially when you're just sitting around the house at a moment when you have nothing more pressing to occupy your time.

 

Her friends have no clue. (unless that's us'uns)

 

Friday Night. No date? Young man......ever pressing to express yourself.......

Been there. The girls don't give a sh........

 

I studied up on rpm's recently. I too thought it
could be a bounce strike. That was my first thought. As far as the reverse goes. That is the best pic I could get out of it. And if it were a bounce strike where is the rest of the bounce effect one would expect to see. That is why I
posted this thread. I knew it was no added value but WHAT the heck went on here ???

 

BTW Hookman, I do understand why that one couldn't be delivered with an economy of words !

 

Shelley or Keats not withstanding.......

 

Who knows? Maybe her friends have more clues than either of us.

Young Man?? No date??

LOLOL Been there, Done that. I'm 67 yrs old. Not looking for a date.

That's why I collect/study coins. LOL

 

A bounce strike is just my best guess as to why the top MM is clipped and appears to be pushed over onto the bottom MM.
It could just all be DDD, with no idea how the apparent clip to the P occurred.
Stranger things have happened.
I also asked the question of where are the other effects of a bounce strike.
I have no answer.

I do know this : Asking questions is a great way to get answers !!

 

Hot dang, we's contemporaries.........took you to be a much younger man. Must be in the way you write.

 

I've enjoyed them both.

 

Thanks for the compliment.

 

yes its MD/DDD, '99 was a bad year nickels, i found dozens of them while roll searching.. heres 2 i took pics of...