Discoveries of advanced pre-flood civiliztions

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  1. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Seeing more evidence of highly advanced cultures, before the "Flood" circa 9000BC. Wondering if they may have invented coinage way back then.?????
    America unearthed/ Destination Unknown/ Ancient Aliens have made pretty interesting finds.
     
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  3. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    You forgot to add the emojis to your post
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  4. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Well-Known Member

  5. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Coins were not invented until much later (I understand around 7th-6th century BCE) But for fun, here’s an antediluvian piece of cuneiform:
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    Cuneiform tablet dated 2,600-2,100 BCE
     
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  6. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Here is one from Turkey 12000 years old....Gobeklitepe gobekli-tepe_0.jpg
     
  7. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

  8. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I doubt coinage as we know it was used back then. I believe lots of economies operated off of a barter system, or used non-coin objects (shells, beads, etc) for "currency"
     
  9. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I am not sure that Humans’ technologically progressed at a “linear” rate, as what modern Humans have proscribed on History. Interesting to note that Egyptians basically STARTED their History with Pyramids, and did not carry that technology forward in their history... And, agreed, @panzerman and @ancient coin hunter ... Gobeklitepi and Catalhoyuk are just incredible.

    Hittites, Akkadians, and Egyptians for fun...civilizations WAAaay after those time periods...

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    Akkadian 2350-2200 BCE Cylinder Seal Buff stone scene hero wresting antelope winged lion Ex J Tabot with SCENE


    Here is my Egyptian Scarab, roughly the same time period...

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    Egypt SCARAB Middle Kingdom 2065-1650 BCE Scarabaeus Sphinx


    Here is one from the Hittites...

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    Hittite Steatite Head of a Man Amulet 2nd Millennium BCE 15 x 20 mm Intact front-Side

    And all of ours are dwarved by the find at Gobekli Tepi, dating back to the TENTH MILLENNIUM BCE...
     
  10. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Recent new analysis on the Sphinx indicate heavy water erosion. This would indicate it was built before 10K BC, when area received normal rainy seasons. Some scientific data links it as being 800K years old. Modern Egyptogists of course refute the evidence. In 1935, if you told anyone that a prehistoric Devonian Era fish like the Celocanth still existed, you would have been called a fool. Some archeologists are open minded to new theories/ evidence that goes against the long upheld Darwinian based dogma.
    Just look at all the new pyramid dicoveries in China/ Bosnia/ New World. Recent one in Java/ could be from 20K-10K BC megalithic-pyramid-discovered-in-indonesia-is-more-than-9000-years-old.jpg
     
  11. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Interesting note about the pyramids. Previously it was thought that the Great Pyramids were the latest and greatest pyramids to be built.

    Now it's been proven that the Great Pyramids are in fact older than most of the other, more "primitive" ones.

    For example, the Bent Pyramid used to be considered a "practice" for the later ones; but it's in fact newer than the better ones.
     
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  12. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Which proves a point. Karl Benz building first car in 1885 / Germany/ in 1967, oops back to horse and buggy;) So, either the three famous Giza Pyramids are much older/ where built not for a burial tomb, but for some unknown advanced technology/ relation to Orions Belt Stars or by a yet to be discovered unknown civilization. The other theory is that the Egyptians had help from their Gods....
     
  13. Magnus Maximus

    Magnus Maximus Dulce et Decorum est....

  14. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    My guess is that the Templars placed a treasure there in 1300s/ keep it from Philip IV . I would say it was retreived in 1700s by same organization. Philip IV was never able to kill all the Templars/ plus De Molay the Grand Master never talked, even though Philip had him slow basted on a barbeque:dead: before being burnt on the stake.:(
     
  15. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Sneferu built 3 pyramids: the Bent Pyramid ("The southern shining pyramid") , the Red Pyramid, and the Pyramid of Meidum.

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    Current theory is that since he had three pyramids built he may not have been interred in any of them, but that they served another ritualistic purpose. Keep in mind that Egyptologists always say "ritualistic" when they don't have a clue. ;)

    I've studied the topic for long enough that I know this to be the case...
     
  16. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Thats what makes history so fascinating! I am addicted to watching it on TV.
     
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  17. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    We've known about an alternative, much more plausible explanation for the patterns on the stone for a quarter century: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/gea.3340100203

    These are not good sources. Actually, let me rephrase that: they're terrible sources! They're full of sensationalist pseudoscience. Here's a review of a recent book summarizing the evidence while avoiding sensationalist speculation: https://www.nature.com/articles/550330a
    You'll note that one recent piece of evidence described in the review is an actual journal (on papyrus) kept by a pyramid builder, which supports the consensus dating for the pyramids. No surprises here.

    Consensus science is a lot more reliable than sensationalist television programs. Personally I find it more exciting too... maybe because it has a decent chance of actually being true. :D
     
  18. Orielensis

    Orielensis Well-Known Member

    +1

    I pretty strongly assume that some of the screenwriters of these programs fancy such headwear:
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  19. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    In with the antediluvian/Donovan crowd........
     
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  20. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor

    They came, they saw what humans were to become, and they left.
     
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  21. atcarroll

    atcarroll Well-Known Member

    So far, the oldest fully human fossils are about 200,000 years old, right? Our recorded history goes back some 5,000 years or so. That's 195,000 years unaccounted for. I think our modern civilization isn't the first, others came before us and were wiped out of the historical record by natural disasters and deep time.
     
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