My second English hammered coin.

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by bcuda, Feb 26, 2020.

  1. bcuda

    bcuda El Ibérico loco

    Well I bought me another one, now I own two English hammered coins. I have a lot to learn on these coins for sure. I will be getting me a book on them soon.


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  3. svessien

    svessien Senior Member

    Edward I Longshanks penny? Nice.
     
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  4. swish513

    swish513 Penny & Cent Collector

    More than likely Edward II. Longshanks didn't have a bifoliate crown pence until class 10, but I can't find a colon stop mentioned with class 10. The obverse legend "+EDWA R ANGL DNS HYB" was very common with Edward II.
     
  5. Suarez

    Suarez Well-Known Member

    That's a damn nice coin. You don't often see them without smooshed-in face syndrome!

    Rasiel
     
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  6. thejewk

    thejewk Well-Known Member

    That's in good condition too, nice. I've been browsing English hammered pennies for a while no but still not pulled the trigger.
     
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  7. TheRed

    TheRed Well-Known Member

    Congrats on your second English hammered penny @bcuda you picked a really nice one.

    Terminal stops of pellets in the obverse legend were used in classes 10ab, 10cf and 11. From the photo it is difficult to tell if there are 2 or 3 pellets after hYB. It can be very hard to determine which class these pennies fall into. I personally don't worry too much, and am happy to leave coins as Edward I/II. The best resource in terms of price and ease of use is the book below. I would highly recommend it.
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  8. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Nice, @bcuda ...

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    England Edward I 1272-1307 AR Penny 19mm 1.3g Class 10c 1302-1310 Canterbury facing star - Voided long cross 3 pellets quarters North 1040 ex @Mat
     
  9. bcuda

    bcuda El Ibérico loco

    Thank you for the reply and information @TheRed !

    I looked at the coin and it has 3 pellets after the hYB if that helps identify this coin any better.
     
  10. bcuda

    bcuda El Ibérico loco

    Thank you Rasiel!

    I don't know much at all on these coins but I did look at quite a few before I picked this one.
     
  11. bcuda

    bcuda El Ibérico loco

    Thank you @thejewk no time is better than now to look for one!
     
  12. bcuda

    bcuda El Ibérico loco

    That is a nice one you got there also @Alegandron thank you !
     
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  13. bcuda

    bcuda El Ibérico loco

    I am having a heck of a time trying to attribute this coin I posted above. Can anyone please help me out ? It weighs 1.41 grams. I did some research but it is just to confusing for me.
     
  14. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    The EII coins are a bit less common, even minted in London.
     
  15. Orielensis

    Orielensis Well-Known Member

    Nice coin! Getting a book certainly is the best idea, but until it arrives, you might find this website on Edwardian pennies useful.

    Here is my Edward II example:
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    Kingdom of England, Edward II, AR penny, 1305–1310 AD (class 10cf(3?)), London mint. Obv: +EDWA R ANGL DNS hYB, crowned bust facing within a tressure of arches, fleurs on cusps. Rev: CIVI-TAS LON-DON; long cross, three pellets in each angle. 18mm, 1.40g. Ref: Spink 1410–1414.
     
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  16. bcuda

    bcuda El Ibérico loco

    I have looked at all of the types listed on that link @Orielensis and the closest one I found is the.
    Type 10cf5 (1309 - 1310) - Spink 1414, North 1043/1
    But it does not have the three dots that are between the letter B and the cross symbol on the obverse legend at the top. I have outlined it in red on the pic below.

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  17. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    ...Except, Woops, Not voided. That's what you get with the later issue of Henry III, evoking the one of AEthelred II. (Deliberately? I think so --Henry III, Francophile Angevin that he was, was the guy who named his eldest son Edward, after the Confessor.)
     
  18. robp

    robp Well-Known Member

    10cf5 with the damaged central fleur. The coin illustrated in Withers has a couple of pellets at the end of the legend. I wouldn't worry whether it's two or three.
     
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