Where & how to store your coins in a safe environment?.

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by anchor1112, Sep 9, 2005.

  1. tracy5900

    tracy5900 Coin Hoarder

    packing tape

    recently i bought two boxes of 2004 keelboat nickels. the original box that the u.s.mint made were with holes. i don't know if those holes were for the intention for the air to get inside for circulation. or for us to see those coins inside the box. but my dealer. in order to save some shipping fee. he taped those two boxes completely. one is that the so called unopened box is gone. second if the box is open. it will destroy that original box. third is my main question. if i choose to remain that way. sealed. but the packing tape which is with glue facing those holes and near those coins at open end. i wonder if it can damaged the surface of those wrapper open end coins?. someone expert on this?.
     
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  3. lumberman

    lumberman Member

    I just bought a flat cliinch stapler..its supposed to keep to a minimum, the contact with the mylar of the 2x2's..my coins are NOT rare or of great value..but I got a brow beating on here from someone who said I shouldn't keep them in the Whitman folders..so I remembered I had some of the flips..so I am gonna try that and see if I get another brow beating!!! :)
    Warren
    PS- I have seen the self adheseive flips..and I am not sure about the adhesive
     
  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    The glue on the self-adhesive flips is harmful - avoid them.

    As for the packing tape around the boxes - it could be, especially over time.
     
  5. Spottedeagle

    Spottedeagle New Member

    I have a Morgan dollar in a plastic flip. Should I remove it from the flip, or keep it there.
     
  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It depends on the flip - is the flip soft and pliable or rather stiff ? If it is soft, then it contains PVC and the coin should be removed.
     
  7. lumberman

    lumberman Member

    I just found some American Eagles in the plastic flips..they looked liked they had some damage..I am at least going to put them into a cardboard flip..damamge may be already done..but it wont get worse I guess by goin to the cardboard..I also found some more Harco albums..they gotta go..might get some Dansco..
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    That depends - if the coins have PVC on them the damage will definitely get worse ! You need to determine if it is PVC - if it is then it must be removed.
     
  9. smullen

    smullen Coin Hoarder

    I put my coins, bullion, jewlery, cash and Fire Arms in one of these....
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    I also have a smaller one for additional Items that won't fit in the bigger one...
     
  10. walterallen

    walterallen Coin Collector

    They do make a self adhesive filp. I can't rememeber what site I saw these at but they're out there. The only down fall is that they'll most likely cost.
    I use regular flips I get 100 for 4.99 from my coin dealer. I don't use stamples though, I tape the three edges with clear thin tape. Then I keep them in 20 pieces pages holders, the nice ones, they cost about 60 cent a pieces and then I use the "D" ring binders to hold the pages. These "D" ring binders cost six bucks a pieces, not cheap, but worth the money in the way that they store the page and keep stress off the ring holes of the page. I find this way of storing my collection easy to separate and view. All my coin club buddies are impressed when they see what I've done. I don't know of too many people that "like" stampled filps.
    I keep the ASE's, Morgans, Peace Dollars, Silver rounds and other special commemoratives in airtites and in a 50 piece felted storage case made for coins.
     
  11. jimij

    jimij New Member

    Now I know that you should remove coins from the soft flips , but what if you have no where else to store the coin? What do you do with it.

    I wanted to get one of the intercept boxes to hold my coins. I will be placing some PCGS and NGC slabbed coins in it.
    The 20 Coin PCGS/NGC Track Box is what I'm looking at. I would also like to get a silicia gel aluminum canister.
    Would this fit inside the box or would I place the intercept box in a larger box and place the canister in there?

    http://www.interceptshield.com/boxes.html

    I live in a very humid and hot place so the sooner I can get something the better. Also the intercept site's faq listed this I found interesting:
    So now I'm confused.
     
  12. tcore

    tcore Coin Collector

    I have a question about safes too. With so many of the safes I see, they have the carpet or even felt-type lining in them. Is this or the adhesives that are used to stick it to the shelves and walls/door harmful to coins, or other things made of metal? Should I look for a safe without any of this carpet-type lining in it or is it no big deal? How about the wood (usually some kind of particle board) that the shelves are often made out of?
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    You get a new coin holder. I always prefer Air-Tites, but a non-PVC flip will work also if that's what you prefer.

    Place the slab boxes in a larger box and silica pack in the larger box. Coins are best stored in some type of sealed contained like a safe or even a large Tupperware container. The idea is to isolate the coins from the outside air thus protecting them from humidity. This allows the silica packs to absorb the humidity inside the small space.



    The reason they say that is because most of the time people place the silica packs in the storage space and forget about them. If you do that, the pack absorbs the moisture in the air and then holds it there inside the confined space. This is not good for the coins.

    But if you check on the silica packs regulary ( in a humid environment I would check every 3 or 4 weeks) and recharge them as needed - then they will do just what they are supposed to do which is absorb the excess humidity in the air.

    It is also a good idea to keep the coins stored in a cool area. NOT in a humid basement, but someplace like the back of your closet away from the sun and heat. The idea is to keep the temperature as constant as possible.
     
  14. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    It depends on what the materials are. Most glues give off harmful gases, some fabrics do too. And just about all wood or wood products are harmful. Look for a safe that is metal - just metal, or one that is lined with inert plastic like fire safes are.

    Some folks like to store their coins in their gun safes. But did you ever think about what kind of gases cleaning solvents and gun oils give off ? I wouldn't recommend it. Unless of course you don't keep any guns in it with the coins.
     
  15. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 Treasure Hunter

    It's amazing how complicated this thread is. I try to keep things simple. If a coin is valuable enough to really worry about preservation, it goes into an airtite and into a fireproof safe with silica in it to absorb moisture. If it doesn't qualifiy for this treatment, it goes into an ordinary cardboard 2X2. I've never had a problem with 2X2s and some of the coins have been in them for decades. Will this treatment preserve the coins for hundreds of years with no visible change in condition? Probably not. Is that a problem? Probably not. Are they completely safe from theft or damage from fire and flood. Probably not.

    I like the tupperware idea a lot and plan to use it. Is there any known downside to this storage method? Is the actual Tupperware brand the only approved container, or is any plastic food container acceptable? The packaging doesn't mention what it is made out of.
     
  16. tcore

    tcore Coin Collector

    That's kind of what I was thinking. Thanks GD.
     
  17. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Mysticism and Tyrants

    Three wooden bourbon whiskey boxes, one for coin books, one for proof sets and slabs, and one for coin rolls with a couple of packs of silica in each box. The boxes are strong enough to support the weight of the coins and and large enough to hold even the largest coin books easily. Everytime I open an electronics or some other product that includes packs of silica, I toss another one into one of the boxes. Being in tornado country, I store them high on a shelf in the basement. Those of you living in Florida will have to go to wikipedia and look up the word basement. :)

    Kind of like this one.

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  18. Boss

    Boss Coin Hoarder

    Brand of sealed ziplocks???

    from dprice7: Mars1970, what brand was that your wife got. I used Reynolds Handi-Vac but the bags seem to tear easily?? Thanks
     
  19. Boss

    Boss Coin Hoarder

    I agree!!

    dprice7: Mr Spud, I couldn't agree more. I proposed the same thing on my thread "my copper's are rusting" and got shot down. This was based on Mr. Weimer White's book Coin Chemistry. I think his book was very convincing and totally logical as is your reasoning based on science and chemistry which is really what coin protecting is all about.
     
  20. Iyaesuyori

    Iyaesuyori Member

    Wow, this thread was started a few years ago and has really covered alot in coin storage. I was looking at my collection and considering alot from what I have read. They are in a dark environment & always a steady 70F and an air cleaner in the room that cleans out dust/particles and allergens and a fan that circulates the air around to maximizes the cleaning unit.

    Most of the non rare/keys are in 2x2's which in turn are inside double row 2x2 boxes with a pack of dessicant. Coins not yet put in 2x2's are inside coin tubes, which are in turn inside storage boxes as well with a pack of dessicant. Mint + proof sets are inside boxes with packs of dessicant, as well as all currency inside sleeves, inside currency boxes with dessicant packs. Alot of my fancier silver dollars and commeratives are in air-tite holders inside the same double rowed storage boxes w/ dessicant.

    Pretty much everything has been triple or more protected. I got boxes that were purported to be inert, safe and good for coins. I get everything from http://www.jakesmp.net/index.html & http://www.jpscorner.com/ which have always been great on delivery, pricing and product information. I still want to upgrade my dessicants to cannisters so I can recharge them without buying the bulk smaller packs that I do every so often. I am also thinking about swapping over to coin albums, possibly ones that can fit air-tites. The Dansco and Intercept albums seem really good for that and especially what I am reading on CT.

    A fair poundage of world coins that I was thinking 2x2 firm flips to avoid pvc contaminates... but, how would that stand for the test of time? Assume they will be in a friendly coin environment... Or, what would be best that is reasonable price wise, long lasting (my lifetime) and attractive diplay for world coins? Since there are so many size/shapes/materials involved having a pre-sized 2x2 isn't an option it seems... I considered the flips since the whole coin is visible and you can use an insert to describe / detail each one on the flips with double pockets.

    Any advice based on how I am currently storing and on what I want to upgrade anyone? Everything I read on CT I take to heart and go for the gold, lol. So please don't hold back!
     
  21. SteveMS70

    SteveMS70 New Member

    Every coin I have is in some sort of holder, (whether it's coin tubes, rolls, mylars, or if they're slabbed) which are then put it some sort of shoebox or other container, in the 3 drawers of my desk. Also, I DON'T smoke in the room since obviously it wouldn't be good for my collection even in holders, in a box, in a drawer.

    I'm thinking of getting those PCGS and NGC storage boxes for slabbed coins. I'm thinking that'd be nicer than rubber banding them together and keeping them in a shoebox.
     
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