Verdigris

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by spock1k, Aug 10, 2008.

  1. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    so i ordered biox just swab it on areas affected by verdigris and let it stay a few minutes and wash with distilled water. is that all or is there more to it? Thanks
     
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  3. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    isn't verdigris the Vulcan word for Spock?
     
  4. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    he still needs his medicine. Tech support !!!!!!!
     
  5. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    So Mr. Spock, what did you decide to do? Or did you let these coins alone?
     
  6. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    well the biox is on its way then we will see what happens when i try to be Dr Spock :D
     
  7. Boss

    Boss Coin Hoarder

    Amen!

    dprice7: you are absolutely right IMHO. I think you have a posts that shows an ancient coin you cleaned that was downright amazing. NCS cleans coins with some "secret techniques" and sends them to NGC to be graded unless too damaged, and rightfully so. If the current coins of the world could have damage safely removed and those coins are preserved then it will be around in the future. The purists (never touch the face or any aspect of the coin, are simply wrong here IMHO). A coin with Bronze disease or noticeable verdigris, etc is better off having the corrossive elements safely removed. Otherwise the coin will turn to junk in the future.
     
  8. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    any word of wisdom on how the cleaning should be performed?
     
  9. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    My patients that are suffering the same ailments are anxiously standing by awaiting the results of these important studies. :D
     
  10. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    have no fear unlike ncs and other secret organization i will publish my results and methods. live long and prosper
     
  11. Boss

    Boss Coin Hoarder

    verdigris removal

    I've left wheats (not expensive) in vasoline (pure petroleum) for months at a time and then used q-tip or (God forbid) a toothpick to remove verdigris. With decent results. I suspect NCS stabilzes the coin on a soft ruberized platform and has tiny nonabrasive instruments to remove all those icky things on coins- just a guess. Does anyone actually know what NCS does definitively?? I have some high grade lincolns that I am going to send in with some carbon spots, ugly green stuff protruding above the surface and I bet they can remove and sent to NGC. So it can be done. I hate paying all that money, but I will second guess myself on expensive coins. So for Spock the Biox sounds good. Never heard of til this posts. Let everyone know.
     
  12. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    just so that you know all my expensive coins go to NCS ( some of them are priceless) but these wheaties cannot afford NCS ( $20 to $50) petroleum is a bad idea as it will stay on the coin. I have done a lot of research on this including talking to some curators now for some practice as soon as the coin arrives. stay tune for our next show called Dr Spock :D
     
  13. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Some before/after photography...

    Spock, here's a little contribution of mine to your study. Paint stripper, that's all this was. The market graders used to laugh at her when she came into town. They'd call her, rag doll, little, rag doll. But now, at least, she's respectable. She's got that little flare thing in the 5 going on. Everybody can now see what variety she is. She comes back in a bag instead of a slab if I sent her in. He he he. But, know what? I love her so, and I ain't letting her go. He he he. :)
     

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  14. BHebert

    BHebert New Member

    Clip Marks?

    I am a beginner to this field and was wondering about all of the mysterious marks found on coins under magnification. Is it possible that some of the "bag" and "wear marks" are scratches from alligator clips that might have been used to electro-clean some coins?

    BRH
     
  15. Boss

    Boss Coin Hoarder

    petroleum

    Dprice7: to dr Spock: I want the petroleum to stay on. Acts as a barrier to ionic compounds that would react to copper or silver. Have put on my coins with no obvoius problems. It has to be wiped off yes but it creates a frictionless suface. Have looked at my coins under 20x magnification before and after and never seen any marks. Have also removed with pure acetone after to see if petroleum was obscuring any new marks and no change. Be that as it may, I mostly use "Coin Care" now. Use a microfiber cloth and dab the coin. Why do you send all your coins to NCS. Did you mean NGC?
     
  16. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    i meant that i send all my coins that require conservation to NCS :D
     
  17. gocamels

    gocamels Learned Blockhead

    Unless the coin was retoned afterward, you won't have to look for contact marks to see if it's been electrocuted.

    Electrolysis strips everything off the coin, including original patina, and leaves the coin looking shiny - way too shiny for an old circulated coin.

    It is possible that marks you see on coins that fit this description could be clip marks from the electrolysis treatment.
     
  18. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    So what about it, what results? You're not holding out on us, now, I hope...
     
  19. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    the stupid botox never arrived i wonder why. the money has left my bank but the botox hasnt reached me yet. i am getting mad now :(
     
  20. Aslanmia

    Aslanmia Active Member

    Be patient, it is coming from overseas remember.

    It's easy to get used to getting packages within the country (US) shipped within a week, but if it crosses a border you have to expect extended shipping times.

    I'm in Canada and I rarely receive anything from the US in under two weeks. UK shipments take even longer.
     
  21. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Botox? Isn't that a wrinkle remover or something? :D

    Give it time, my pointy-ear first mate. But then, understand, the scientific community is holding its breath in anticipation of the results. Will Dr. Spock be the one to finally crack the secret formula of the conservators and make same available to the public thereby freeing the coin-world of this deadly disease? :D
     
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