Bad 1917 Quarter Bouncing Around

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Aberlight, Aug 8, 2008.

  1. TRT2

    TRT2 Member

    Very Nice!
     
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  3. walterallen

    walterallen Coin Collector

    Very Nice indeed!
     
  4. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Some of the whizzing pros are using a plastic brush to minimize the lines, I hear. Because whizzing actually displaces metal, you may observe a thin line of pushed up metal around the devices. I couldn't see any evidence of this on the quarter in the op, though.
    Also- some people are using air-jet devices that propel a fine spray of plastic or glass beads to create prooflike surfaces on Morgans and Trade dollars. I have seen several examples of this on eBay.
     
  5. davidh

    davidh soloist gnomic

    OK, should I get on my soapbox and suggest that you report this to ebay the way you reported it to us? There's nothing we can do about it, whereas you seem to have the details.
     
  6. Aberlight

    Aberlight New Member

    Whats ironic I just posted to another link in CT titled "Reporting to Ebay" and my frustration with them not removing bad listings. In short I have notified Ebay of several items as well as sellers and they do not do anything but send a automated for letter stating...Thanks for reporting to Ebay...blah, blah,...

    I have no confidence in Ebay removing this sellers listing if I reported it.In fact I am currently trying to get upgraded to powerseller before listing several items and although I meet the qualifications I do not have a link to join and when I call they inform me that I must email Ebay. 5 days now and nothing.

    Ebay has realized that their growth through new subscribers is slowing which fueled their growth and to compensate for the shortfall in projected earnings they changed their business model which doesn't seem to be working. New Coke didn't work for Coca Cola and The New Ebay with higher fees and a layout requiring you to navigate through a more complicated search menu is not working for a lot of people. Currently Ebay is the only way to go and their new business model may be profitable for common items such as cell phones, but the traffic to coins will find better venues and those new venues are opening every day. They only thing keeping Ebay afloat is honest sellers and honest buyers. As the both the bad sellers and bad buyers have more leniency through one sided feedback and lack of Ebay rules enforecement the good buyers and sellers are fading. In 8 years I have been on Ebay and on the last 2 years I am buying and selling much less on Ebay. I still buy 5 - 10 items a week, but I may buy two items a month if even that off Ebay.

    With fewer listings why would they want to remove a few altered items if it only cost them money. As being a trading site without any responsibility as "Sellers are responsible for content" they do have limited liability with only income to lose.

    As far as Paypal's buyer protection... Let just say it has never worked for me after two attempts of not receiving items and two electronic items that didn't work. I am still waiting on a coin related $27 refund that Paypal removed from my account when I login without any mention of it to only repost it after calling everyday for a six days. Now it is back as says refund completed as has said completed since Friday. Now four days later my credit card says they do not see it and Paypal says it was refunded and to wait 30 days. I have run out of patience with Paypal and after a supervisor refused to contact the credit card to figure things out and insist I wait 30 more days (this all started July 12th) I informed her that she had 1 day to get it corrected and call me or I would just reverse the charge through the credit card. I really want to close my Paypal account, but Ebay prohibits a long list of alternative electronic payments.

    Unfortunately as a seller, many buyers are brainwashed into thinking they are protected and will not even consider buying unless the seller take Paypal.

    As a seller I do not want Paypal and will not sell an item if I think the lower ending price will offset the 3% Paypal fee. After figuring in the headache of the possibility of dealing with Paypal it isn't worth dealing with Ebay/Paypal. My only options to wait until their 25c fixed price listing and submit an item at a fair price and hope it sells without Paypal offered. Just sold a 20th Ann. Platinum set and before being purchased after 3 days I had zero watchers. Probably because I didn't offer Paypal and for a $2000 item despite 100% feedback people bought into Paypal's claim that they are protected.

    Again, just another failing business model.
     
  7. Coinfreak~24

    Coinfreak~24 Active Member

    awesome coins guys!!!!
     
  8. Defiant7

    Defiant7 Enjoy the Insanity

    I do not think ebay would do anything, The new seller did not mention the defect but he was not obligated to do so. The only thing the auction stipulates is they are selling a coin, and a whizzed coin is still a coin.
     
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