Jefferson Toners

NGC uses the star designation for coins with exceptional eye appeal. All of the graders that view the coin must unanimously vote for the star designation. If one grader says no, the coin does not get a star.

 

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lehigh, I know this is a Jefferson thread...
but do you have any coins that are red? or a dark red?

i should say, non-copper

 

Ahhh I see. Well if any coin deserves that star designation it's definitely that Jefferson! Kudos to you. :thumb:

 

Finding coins that are mono chromatically toned red is very difficult. I searched my inventory and did not find a single one. I have many coins that have bands of cherry red, but not that are all red. The closest thing I have to a red coin is this 1958-D Franklin Half Dollar NGC MS67* CAC. The obverse is mostly covered by a speckled cranberry red coloration with bands of lime green and gold. The reverse has a peripheral band of cherry red and lime green with plum colored center. An amazing coin to say the least.



However, in honor of the Jefferson Nickel thread, I would be happy to post a photo of a red Jefferson War Nickel that every time it comes up for auction, I get outbid. I think I get outbid because the 1945-D that I already own is so impressive that it limits my bid. Anyway, here is a spectacularly toned red Jefferson Nickel (photos courtesy of Anaconda Rare Coins).



Stop drooling on your keyboard!

 

Hmm, I see.
I dont think I've ever seen an all red one, which is why I was asking.
But Im sure they exist...

It sure is a nice Franklin, and that Jefferson, whoa! Its like someone took acid and painted it.

 

Your not the only one.
I can't think of any time when I've heard of a UNC coin being called that either--I'd have to check out my folders again but I don't recall even seeing that in any of the old papers I have on Jefferson Nickel Varieties.

My guess is that ANACS is just doing this for marketing--and they are lacking research.

Speedy

 

In "The Jefferson Nickel Analyst" dark nickels throughout the 50's up to the Black Beauties of 58/59 are attributed to annealing oven problems at the Philadelphia mint.
This can also be found in The official Red Book guide to Buffalo and Jefferson Nickels on pg 175.

 

From my understanding though...when it is an annealing error it will have the dark look from the get-go. Isn't the Black Beauties more of a toning type of color?

Speedy

 

Well, It says that some dealers dubbed the Black Beauties in 58 so they must have been dark from the get go. I don't know if I ever seen one in hand. I posted a pic of a dark 59 but am not sure if that is a "Black Beauty" by definition. The link to the ANACS graded one on the HSN that Lehigh96 posted is such a lousy picture just can not tell what the nickel actually looks like.

 

Since this is the Jefferson Toner thread, I'll ask here.
How come some of the proof set nickels, tone gold? (particularly from the 60's)

two 1961 proof sets I bought had nicely golden toned nickels.
What causes that?

 

Ok, this coin was auctioned by Heritage in 2006. It is a 1945-S NGC MS67* Anyone want to take a guess at what the price realized was without cheating (don't look in the auction archives). Photo by Heritage.

 

$800

 

price

$3500

 

okay...i looked

After I posted my guess I had to go and look. Let's just say I was a bit off.

 

dittos

 

oh?
Because from looking at other proof sets its seems as though gold is a prominent color (compared to no toning, and other possible colors)

 

nickel toning

I've noticed that proof 1961 nickels do tend to tone golden. Proofs in the mid-sixties tend to tone blue.

I'm guessing that either variations in the metallic content or the planchet preparation process explain the differences.

 

? - I thought you didn't collect coins? If you have a whole bunch like the example you posted I would love to see them together. Where can one find one that is as dark as the one you posted?