1930 LWC Triple Die

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  1. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    I may have posted this before but can't find it. This 1930 LWC seems to have 3 or more strikes. 1930 Triple Die 1.jpg 1930 Triple Die 2.jpg 1930 Triple Die 3.jpg 1930 Triple Die 4.jpg 1930 Triple Die 5.jpg 1930 Triple Die 6.jpg What I have and how it happens would be helpful.
     
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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    That Looks like damage. Acid or buffing tool.

    FYI. Your title states triple die. I'm assuming you mean triple struck.
    Reminder that Doubled or Tripled Die has nothing to do with the planchet being struck. It is not a striking error.
     
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  4. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Looks like it was dipped in acid.
     
  5. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    Thanks @paddyman98 Like I said, I have no idea what I had here and was looking for help. And, I also stated that it appears to have 3 or more strikes. Never-the-less, I appreciate the feedback. Plus, how would the acid or buffing make the letter and other devices look double or triple? If you have any idea I would like to know. Otherwise, thanks again.
     
  6. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    @paddyman @furryfrog02 Here is a 1902 IHC with similar conditions.
    1902 IHC.jpg
     
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  7. mike23

    mike23 New Member

    I have one as well
     
  8. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Did you read the resposes given?
     
  9. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    when you take a piece of metal to a buffer (dependent upon the wheel material, speed, compounds, time etc) you end up pushing metal to one side in the direction of the wheel spin. The longer you hold it, the more you get. you'll also get significant surface streaks, etc.

    I do metal and wood buffing & polishing. From time to time when I'm using my machine I have a bunch of really dirty money that I'll hold briefly to clean up and make nice and shiny. After all, I use it for money and don't like holding icky stuff.

    one time I took a icky looking zincoln and held it there .. buffed right off a bunch of the copper plate. That was cool .. I just threw it away. Good thing too .. I'm sure it would have ended up on CT as a rare error question. Once in a while the machine will grab a coin and fling it the opposite direction against a concrete wall.

    I don't do this very often but next time I'll have to remember to take before and after pictures. :)
     
  10. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    Your coin looks like it was cleaned on an electric wire wheel like my 1955.
    DSC05319.JPG DSC05318.JPG
     
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  11. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    Thanks. Do you know for a fact that yours was a wire wheel? I would like to put mine in my "confirmed examples" files. Not challenging you - I'm just looking for confirmation comment.
     
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  12. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    This effect is best duplicate with a fine (small wire gauge) bristled circular wire wheel on a bench mounted electric motor. The type used also for grinding and polishing wheels.
    grind.jpeg
    As a coin is pushed against the wire brush it causes friction that creates heat that will soften the metal some.
    As the wire bristles pass over the design element of a copper coin they are bent backwards and then ping forward at a faster than spinning rate and move the copper forward a little bit and creates a wave-like structure that in turn will create another wave-like metal push.
     
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  13. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    Yes I do, as I have recreated this effect several times just to satisfy my own curiosity.
     
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  14. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    Thanks. Further above there is a 1902 IHC. Could it have been created by the same process? The pattern is a little different.
     
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  15. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    I do not dare say what may have happened to the IHC as the photo is to reflective for me to see what the surface looks like.
     
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  16. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    use the grinder wheel on the left :)
     
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  17. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    OK, if you don't mind I will try to get a better photo for you to look at.
     
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