1903 Peso, Philippines grade opinion

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Is this coin problem free?

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  2. No

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  1. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

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  3. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    i think you got it perfect.
    harsh cleaning, poorly applied AT, and an overall not too attractive coin.

    unless it's super cheap, in which case it becomes attractive again
     
  4. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Agree. Looks like it was cleaned pretty roughly and then the AT applied to try and hide it.
    I absolutely love this coin design and do not yet have one in my collection. I would only get this if it were cheap though.
     
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  5. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    I opened the thread, saw the pictures, and recoiled.

    Then I read your post.

    Yes, I agree EF, polished, AT'd.
     
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  6. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Here's my favorite Philippine Peso. I hope to own it someday. http://www.winsociety.org/newsletter/vol-7/philippine-peso.html
     
  7. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    It is possible that if a polish was used on the coin the chemical residue from the polish is what caused the toning.
     
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  8. Inspector43

    Inspector43 Celebrating 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    Here is one our baby sitter got in change in the late 70's. Toll booth gave it to her a 50 Cents. She was madder than a wet hen. So, I gave her 50 Cents for it. IMG_5579.JPG IMG_5580.JPG
     
  9. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    I think my coin has some similarity to the OP's coin. Not just the date.
    The lines on the reverse, left of shield are in the toning and not scratches.
    I would not give more than an EF grade.
    phillipine (9).jpg phillipine (10).jpg
     
  10. sonlarson

    sonlarson World Silver Collector

    Agree with all above. These are not easy to come by in mint state due to several factors. A shame that someone attempted to "enhance" the coin. It would be a very nice coin "as is".

    Next month I am giving a presentation on Philippine Type coins at my local coin club. I'll be discussing the history of Philippine Coinage during the following eras.

    U.S. Administration 1903-1936
    Commonwealth 1936-1945
    Republic 1947-1967

    I am still working on the finishing touches for a PowerPoint Presentation, but I have a PDF version available for anyone interested. Just shoot me a PM and I'll upload a copy for you.
     
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  11. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    Has the fact that most of these coins resided in Caballo Bay from the fall of Corregidor till the end of WWII escaped you all?
     
  12. Inspector43

    Inspector43 Celebrating 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    So, you think that my coin was at the bottom of the bay? I know a bunch of them were. But, have they been extracted? If I remember correctly, you and I discussed this some time back. Very interesting part of history.
     
  13. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    Yup.

    And I enjoy the discourse. :)
     
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  14. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Try my link above. I edited and published the story for my grandfather in law. ;)
     
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  15. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Thank you everyone, for your input. This is another post from a facebook group. I immediately called the coin cleaned, AT, etc. and he insulted me and claimed I had no idea what I was talking about. Sometimes I just need a sanity check.
     
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  16. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    The guy's a jerk, but you're an Numismatist.......
     
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  17. Inspector43

    Inspector43 Celebrating 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    Yes.
     
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  18. sonlarson

    sonlarson World Silver Collector

    Here are 3 that I own that are sea salvaged. A large percentage of these commemoratives ended up in the bay. Believe it or not, but these were mint state, just corroded from salt water.

    Philippines 1936 50 Centavos Murphy Quezon  176.jpg Philippines 1936 Peso Murphy Quezon  178.jpg Philippines 1936 Peso Roosevelt Quezon  177.jpg
     
  19. jhinton

    jhinton Well-Known Member

    If you have not completed your presentation yet, I would be happy to offer any assistance if I could.
     
  20. sonlarson

    sonlarson World Silver Collector

    Thanks @jhinton , I have finished the PowerPoint and just need to proofread the text. I'll be giving the presentation next week. My guess is that 90% or more of the members only collect U.S. coinage so my talk will offer something different. Hopefully when I explain that the coins were mostly issued by the mints in the U.S., it will generate interest.
     
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