Counterfeit / Altered Coin Of The Day/Week

I have my settings set that way, but for some reason it didn't do it to this pic.....?? wonder what happened??

Tell me about it

Speedy

 

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Have you ever had this problem with other pics I've posted recently? I save the pics in the lowest resolution possible and they still exceed CT maximum limits so I've been uploading them to ImageShack and then posting them via the "Insert Image" feature and I haven't been reducing the size in case someone wanted to click on the pic and see it full size, for details or whatever.

Ribbit

 

Ps: The U.S. Mint overstamped coin was a 1797 Capped Half-Cent that was overstamped on a cut-down Talbot, Allum & Lee Cent:

http://www.coinfacts.com/half_cents/1797_half_cents/1797_half_cent_c1.htm

Read the last coin description on that page.

I knew I read that somewhere but I forgot where. :goofer:

Ribbit

 

Just want to thank everybody who contributes to this thread , Hope it keeps going & going , very informative , hope someone posts a high quality Trade dollar fake .
rzage

 

Sad EBAY Experience and Buyer Beware!!!!

Well, here is my Fake of the day/month/year:

But first, the "story" behind it.

At the end of May i saw and bid on an 1844 Dime (Known as the orphan Annie Dime) in EBAY graded ANACS fine 12. Not a rare coin, but one full of history behind it which i really wanted.
Driven by all of my recent positive experiences in EBAY i still went ahead with the deal, even when the "seller" sent my this note.

"....yes I will ship to Germany. I will ship Registered. $15 sounds about right. When I ship registered to England it costs about $11.
This is very important: My paypal account was limited, so I can't accept payments to the paypal account that I have listed on the auction.
I will have to send you a money request on my other paypal account if you win.
Sorry about the confusion, but I have no other choices at this point, they limited my account and I can't touch the funds.....

This is a very nice coin, nicer than the photos show.

Good luck winning it!

- seatedbustkeys"


Well, in spite of all of the above red flags, i good naturedly went ahead, bid and "won" the coin, and then Paypalled him the money.

A month later i still had not received the coin. Strange i thought. In 10 years or more of buying coins in the U.S and shipped to Germany, NOTHING has ever gotten lost in the mail. So i suspected fraud, and filed a paypal complaint. Won the case, but no reimbursement (not surprising giving the sellers stand with paypal). Now, 8 weeks after the close of the auction i receive in the mail this coin. An 1857 -S half dollar.
At first i was happy that the seller (seatedandbustkeys) still went ahead and sent me something. A closer look at the coin told me otherwise. Apperance is all worn and rough, weight is off - should weigh 13.36 g, weighs 11.94..), the reeding is a joke. Definitely a fake (cast??) of a semi scarce coin.


So folks, what do you think. Anybody ever heard of this seller "Seatedandbustkeys" ???
I have nobody to blame but myself for being so unsuspecting that there are truly dishonest individuals out there. A lesson i will not forget.
Regards,
Eduard

 

It was your turn in the barrel. Many of us have been there so don't blame yourself too much. Use this as a learning experience.

That's really sad. I'm surprised the seller sent you anything. In a way I am not surprised that what he sent is a cheap fake, then again I am surprised at that. I wonder if somehow you can use that to your advantage with either eBay or PayPal.

I have not heard of "seatedandbustkeys" but that user name is very similar to one or two that Arizona Jack chased off eBay a while back. Perhaps he can shed a little light on this seller. (I bet he can even dig something up on him.)

 

I feel for you, I was strictly on dial up for a long time and I'm still on dial up about half the time on the weekends. The rest of the time I'm on a wi-fi type system. Faster than dial up but still much slower than broadband. Excessively large pictures, animation and such are very annoying because they greatly slow down page loads.

 

Have you checked your PM's? :whistle:

Ribbit

 

No I hadn't. Decent S-1 but more than I can afford. That thing went for close to twice what my week in the hospital cost.

 

Just stay out of the hospital.

I hope you are doing better and will remain that way! :thumb:

I missed you, as I know others did too! :hail:

Ribbit

 

This is an contemporary counterfeit 1860 3 Cent Silver made from hand-cut dies. At first glance the coin may appear to be genuine (helped by the fact that it is a very small coin) but when you look at the details you realize that it is very crude. This is one of my favorite counterfeit coins in my collection.

 

Ooooo...so I'm not the only one with an 1860 faker!

 

Nice. I wonder if they were struck from the same dies.

 

There are a lot of similarities. :kewl:

Ribbit

Ps: Note the little die crack thingy between the C & A of AMERICA?

 

Well since the last few posts have been on the 3 cent silver I'll continue with it.

Here is an 1860 & 1861 - both from hand /home made dies- which is obvious due too the crudness of design. There are some similarities to the other 1860 that was pictured earlier.

 

That 1861 you just posted is by far one of the crappiest counterfeit 3CS I have ever seen! Somebody really didn't spend a lot of time trying to be accurate when cutting those dies.

 

Have you ever gotten foreign coins in your change when you buy something? Nobody looks closely at the small change, only the big stuff, so it doesn't take much to fool peeps.

Ribbit

 

Nobody looks closely at the small change, only the big stuff, so it doesn't take much to fool peeps.

Perhaps, but at the time these coins circulated 3 cents was a third of a day's wages. I think I'd pay closer attention to that.

 

Budgood's 1860 is from different dies than the other two 1860 fakes.

I know times were hard then but I still think the daily wage at the time was more than 10 cents a day. Still in equivalent purchasing power compared to today a 3 cent piece would be about the same as $1.50 to $2.00 in todays money.

 

Those coins are so small though, how many people spending them would look that close. You would have had to pull a loupe out to see them.