why NGC coins do not cross to PCGS (a theory)

Thank you. I wasn't sure if it was the same coin or just a type. I need to pay more attention to the date of the OP. Not the first time I've done this.

 

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In very technical terms of grading going from a Red Brown coin to a Brown is a downgrade.

But when you consider the coin was in an ICG holder then crossed to a PCGS holder at the same grade, less the designation, the value has increased.

 

For sure

 

Touche !!!

 

and what percent of the overall coin market might that be?

 

coin geek just did two video's on the pro's and cons crossing/cracking.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...EAD1B9C07911D581D2CBEAD1B9C07911D58&FORM=VIRE

 

I think the whole 3rd party grading/slabbing is a waste of time/money and a detriment to the hobby/profession. Part of numismatics is learning and acquiring the skills to accurately grade coins. I think slabbing will ultimately turn out to be a poor investment. Just my two denarii.

 

That ship sailed longgggggggg ago. It's been basically 4 decades since the major ones and they weren't even the first. People were saying the same thing in the 80s, it's not a question anymore

 

Beautiful... I prefer mine, blast white but would be proud to add that one

 

The marketplace has evolved to where slabbed coins have insurmountable advantages over most of their raw counterparts. Personal feelings or not, that’s the way it’s shaken out.

 

Like all ships, they return to harbor some day; some with their cargo spoiled - time will tell. In the mean time I'll spend my money on ancients, not on pieces of plastic with someone else's "opinion" (read - NOT fact) on it.

 

Exactly, the continual expansion of online market places and sales venues will only continue to increase those advantages as well. There's always going to be people who are unhappy with it and fight it as is the case with everything, but those will be fewer and fewer as time goes on

That's like waiting for typewriters to replace computers, there's nothing to wait and see the case has been settled and grading has been constantly expanding for decades.

 

Yawn.

 

Not really a true downgrade, as PCGS agreed with PR64. They merely changed the color designation from RB to BN.

 

It's still a downgrade in terms of pure grade. As mentioned earlier the holder change is an upgrade, but with copper Red < Red Brown < Brown. Going RD to RB would be considered a downgrade, same with RB to BN

 

I am aware of this. However it’s just the color, which is even more subjective than the numerical grade. It could also have changed after the coin was graded by ICG...