Grade this 1916 Lincoln

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by eddiespin, Aug 2, 2008.

  1. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    I was going through some of my old flips from way back when and I found this one with this, ahem, "incidental damage" on the reverse. In fact, I had it marked, back then, "Proof/Damaged." Don't know where I got it, nor whether it in fact is a proof. Just know the odds against are something like 100,000:1. Could be I had it marked that way simply to wake me up to the overall detail and shape. Anyway, how do you like it, and how do you grade it? Thanks.
     

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  3. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    It is a nice strike and great details which that era coin is noted for. The coin is AU corroded net XF.
     
  4. Parklane64

    Parklane64 Member

    Yeah, XF with DEWWWW.
     
  5. foad1125

    foad1125 New Member

    What does "XF with DEWWWW" mean?

    Thanks
     
  6. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    XF or so, it's a shame about the verdigris. Or possibly is it tar/grime?
     
  7. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    just a quick ? Are the edges rounded or sharp?
     
  8. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    AU details, corroded/scratched, net VF
     
  9. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Thanks, guys. RLM, took my breath away when I first saw it...just didn't know how good a year this was in terms of craftsmanship and details. Bone, whatever it is, looks like it's on to stay. Mike, so sharp, still, you can cut yourself on it.
     
  10. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Either 1916 or 1917 was the top year for details, IMHO!
     
  11. Coinfreak~24

    Coinfreak~24 Active Member

  12. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    AU-50 environmental damage.
     
  13. sumorada

    sumorada Senior Member

    There are a few diagnostics you can check to determine if it is a Matte Proof, if you could post a pic of the edge, and also a close up of the
    "US" in trust and "PLURIBUS"
     
  14. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    AU details, but net VF/XF due to the damage. Still pretty decent, and a nice coin IMHO.

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  15. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Sumorada, here are the closeups of the edges and text you requested. I'm also throwing in a higher-definition closeup of the hair/beard/tie, one, because I actually think I'm getting better at this with experience (digital photography), and, two, because I still get goosebumps when I look at it! Let me know I make out? Thanks! :)
     

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  16. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    I say proof, but I am no authority worth mentioning.

    BTW... AWESOME pics!!!
     
  17. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    Proof? Nahhh, dont think so. Like Rlm said, they had brand new dies in 1916/17, so those usually are some pretty sharp coins.
     
  18. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    AJ, I am referring to the edges, not the detail, although the detail is spectacular for a coin of it's condition.
     
  19. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Thanks, buddy...all the way around. :)
     
  20. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Ah, you're just playing the odds. Never forget, Jack--you live by the book, you die by the book. ;)
     
  21. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    You'd have to clean it up a bit to look for the polish. Being new dies, there are not a lot of indicators on this year.

    The rims sure look beefy enough, but your correct, I am playing the odds...

    Look for a spike of die polish above the 9 in the date, and concentric to the rims above " pluribus".

    On this, the only way to be sure would be to submit for " Genuine " service at PCGS or get it off to NCS.
     
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