I wanting to make an offer on 2 defaced cent die. Her pictures are rough, she has no documentation And without I'm not sure if its a pair, 2 hammer or anvil one of each or if they are paired. The numbers are #D3-462575 and #D3-462831
First, welcome to the neighborhood! I'm a bit confused. Is one of them an obverse die and one a reverse die? ~ Chris
Unless they're going very cheaply, I wouldn't pull the trigger without more info. However, I know very little about these die/die pairs, but I do know how to avoid getting stung.
Hi and welcome to cointalk. Question.. Why? How much do are they going for? If they are defaced then they are no longer a die pair. Just 2 pieces of worthless metal. In my opinion.
Thought I might add something to my exo pile cheap. For some reason I am unable to post or see photos. I was going to show them but when I couldn't post them I thought I had abandoned this question. Can't figure this out. I post and/or receive jpeg all day every day but CT software isn't working on my machine. For some reason it prompted me to ad an extension then my browser all changed and nothing will work here. I have no trouble up and down with my website or flea-bay. Anyway this seller has these 2 1c defaced die out there on auction. One has a sb of 25 the other 45 and a piece of 25c clad web at .99. I was going to offer her a lowball of $35 just for grins. I have a few RB large cents to sweeten the deal (both holed). Its one of those things in exo, impulse buy perhaps. Do I need them? Well probably not unless the price was right. K otter gets $55+ for his. Here's a pic again but all I see is a thumbnail icon
Well you only posted a picture of one of them. I believe the D indicates it is from Denver and the 3 would be I believe the last digit of the year. The rest of the numbers are the actual serial number of the die. The one die you picture is an anvil die. If the other looks like that it is an anvil die as well. Note the long neck on the die leading up to the striking face. A hammer die has a much shorter neck. The difference in the length of the necks is because when the anvil dies rises up and pushes the coin out of the collar, the neck of the die has to be as long as the collar is thick. The hammer die on the other hand has to only come a very short distance into the collar to strike the coin so it has a much shorter neck.
I am the source for those dies; I bought 20,000 of them directly from the Denver Mint - And as colder 101 says above: The D means Denver, and the 3 means it's a die that was dated 1993. The other numbers are 'serial numbers' to track the dies.
I Now tend to agree with you sir. Other than Fred supplied the country with 20000 of these I'm not sure why anyone wouldn't just buy a large nut and bolt instead. Value is probably the same or more for the bolt
A "large nut and bolt" is not the same as what you bought.This die was actually used in a United States Mint. You see the serial number making it an individual item. Fred Weinberg has a very well-known and highly respected name in the Numismatic world. IF you could prevail upon Mr. Weinberg to provide you with a letter, preferably hand-written and signed, detailing the circumstances of his acquisition and subsequent sale, of this die and/or die pair, and attesting to the correct serial number(s), that MAY increase the value enormously, or maybe not. Such a letter would certainly not hurt the value. That letter would be called "provenance" and provenance always helps to protect the value of a collectable item, if not increase the value. Good Luck and thanks for posting.
