In God We Trust (til when?)

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  1. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    See i knew it.
     
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  3. HAB Peace 28 2.0

    HAB Peace 28 2.0 The spiders are as big as the door

    If you want some real fun? YouTube Eddie Bravo, Flat Earth. De rein. :happy::happy:
    To add, Eddie Bravo is a great treasure. I’m very thankful to share this planet w/ him :happy:.
     
  4. Kentucky

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  5. Jeffjay

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    Let's face it most people aren't very smart.
     
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  6. Jeffjay

    Jeffjay Well-Known Member

    If people can use government to push their religious agenda they will certainly try.
     
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  7. CoinCorgi

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  8. Jeffjay

    Jeffjay Well-Known Member

    Name calling. Sad.
     
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  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    And which group do you think I fall into ? And yeah, there's a reason I'm asking.
     
  10. -jeffB

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    Over the course of my life, I haven't seen much correlation between level of intelligence and level of religious faith. Plenty of really smart and kinda dumb people in all the various categories.

    It's easy to think that someone who disagrees with you must be stupid. That assumption can get you into lots and lots of trouble.
     
  11. Randy Abercrombie

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    Wish I could give this multiple likes.
     
  12. CoinCorgi

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    Long winded way of saying what I said in just 1 word. Surprised it was edited but whatever.
     
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  13. CoinCorgi

    CoinCorgi Tell your dog I said hi!

    Wait...shouldn't the real question be "Does God believe in Doug?".
     
  14. harrync

    harrync Well-Known Member

    I agree with everything you say about judging other people, but as you state, yours is just a personal observation of the link between faith and intelligence - anecdotal evidence, as they say. When scientific studies are done, they do find a positive correlation between higher intelligence and lack of religious belief. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23921675
     
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  15. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Ah, a couple of other things I've lost faith in over my life:

    1) Meta-analysis
    2) Intelligence "measurement"
     
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  16. Randy Abercrombie

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    My first reaction is to shred this "scientific study". I find it funny that the group studied is college students. I was a middle school drop out and am often asked at my place of business to hire these college graduates that are unable to assemble a coherent sentence. No sir, college student does not equate to intelligent. That is a societal inference only.... And this statement absolutely confounds me, "Compensatory control, self-regulation, self-enhancement, and secure attachment, are also conferred by intelligence". I'll simply leave it at that. The lack of inferred intelligence simply explodes from this comment alone. This is no scientific study. This is an opinion by a very confused person...... I have said before that I am a confirmed believer and I'll not impose my beliefs upon you or anyone else. But I know where I am going when I need opinions from truly intelligent people.... And it ain't the local university.
     
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  17. Suarez

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    It's just a correlation. Like saying the rich eat more lobster than poor people. To flip this around, I could say I'm more likely to have an intelligent debate about religion with a trained theologian than some random guy posting bumper sticker slogans.

    Here's the breakdown FWIW
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  18. medoraman

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    I wonder which way to read this chart. It easily could be an indictment of the political indoctrination of the university system in America.
     
  19. calcol

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    I think having a very high Christian majority was necessary for IGWT being added to coins and "under God" being added to the pledge. But the timing was due to a perception of a cherished way of life and belief system being threatened.

    In the early 1860's, there was increasing national rancor over slavery, which was followed by the civil war. To some extent adding IGWT to circulating 2-cent coins in 1864 was an appeal to the Almighty to support the Union cause. Likewise for the writing of the lyrics and popularity of the Battle Hymn of the Republic.

    In the 1950's, there was great fear of the Soviet Union and communism because of its domination of eastern Europe, and its development of atomic weapons and rockets. So adding a reference to God in the pledge was an affirmation and appeal against the expansion, power and aggression of a Godless state.

    Cal
     
  20. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Which is almost always the case especially from the outrage brigade.

    Being in college doesn’t make someone of higher intelligence. Plenty of people that skipped college to join the military, learn a trade or start their own business are far smarter than people in college. Easily at minimum 1/3rd of people in college have no business being there with all the joke majors now and terrible schools where not much learning is going on. Even in graduate school there’s a significant number of “fluff” degrees
     
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  21. Kentucky

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    I would guess but choose not to
     
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