Not sure ancient or world ??

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  1. Evildriven.da

    Evildriven.da Member

    1580751838655-120756909.jpg 15807519009251346834265.jpg Any feedback would be great. I did some digging on internet , but come yes this coin was made before but also alot of different people made such coin as replicas
     
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  3. svessien

    svessien Senior Member

    Looks like a cast fantasy piece resembling Marcus Aurelius or Lucius Verus.
    Not a lot of value, I’m afraid.
     
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  4. Evildriven.da

    Evildriven.da Member

    It being real was more important to me than the price. Well worth a lot of money would been nice to . Thanks again
     
  5. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Looks soapy to me. I also think it is a cast.
     
  6. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    It is also very "round".
     
  7. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    I would agree. Do not recall the reverse, (looks Republican), and extreme mushiness of details.
     
  8. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

    I think it is supposed to be a denarius of Septimius Severus.
     
  9. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    Legend starts L Verus
     
  10. Barry Murphy

    Barry Murphy Well-Known Member

    Modern tourist fantasy piece of a Lucius Verus sestertius. No value.

    Barry Murphy
     
  11. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Supporter! Supporter

    I’m sure I have one like this. Told the guy the cast edge is a tell. Sorry I don’t have the pic but from other members posts...
     
  12. Evildriven.da

    Evildriven.da Member

    Thanks to all of you for taking the time and look. Compared to pictures I found on internet it was too round and strike alone was too center. Thank s again
     
  13. cmezner

    cmezner do ut des Supporter

    It is not a coin.
    Imitative cast medal of a Roman coin type. There are no Roman coins of this type.
    see this thread:
    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/some-fakes-can-be-very-expensive.321832/page-2

    You can read the following description at the British Museum, reference B.12967 (
    http://www.britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/search.aspx?museumno=B.12967

    "Copper alloy medal; Renaissance invention of a Roman coin type.
    Obverse: Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust of Lucius Verus, right;
    Reverse: Quadriga rushing left. School / style Paduan, Giovanni da Cavino, 16th century or later.
    Curator's comments: There are no Roman coins of this type, but the reverse image is similar to those on Syracusan decadrachms.
    Bibliography: Klawans 1977 2, p.99, Klawans 1977 5, p.96"
     
  14. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I'm an amateur and must have seen a hundred of these so I can imagine how many crossed the path of Barry and the many dealers who are tasked to break the hearts of people who own one. I have never seen one that I believed was struck or a high enough quality cast to suspect it was original Cavino. This certainly includes the British Museum specimen which is fuzzier than most. I know it was cataloged as a Paduan but what is the evidence that the first of these was from that period?
    https://research.britishmuseum.org/...?assetId=1373975001&objectId=3518694&partId=1
     
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  15. Barry Murphy

    Barry Murphy Well-Known Member

    These are modern. There is no way these are related to anything "Paduan". The references cited on the BM page are to an unrelated Verus Paduan medallion and an unrelated Didius Julianus Paduan sestertius.

    This is what is on pgs 96 and 99. Other than being a copy of a Syacusan coin, the Didius is from different dies of a completely different relief and style. This is not the best example as this is probably a 5th generation aftercast. The originals are of much higher relief. The Verus is irrelevant in this discussion.

    Not sure what the BM is thinking.

    padua96.jpg padua99.jpg

    Barry Murphy
     
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  16. Andrew McMenamin

    Andrew McMenamin Nerva You Mind

    Unfortunately, its not a real coin.
     
  17. willieboyd2

    willieboyd2 First Class Poster

    The coin is a Roman Empire fantasy coin of the co-emperor Lucius Verus (AD 161-169).

    Here is another one:

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    Roman Empire Lucius Verus fantasy coin
    Bronze, 35 mm, 18.09 gm

    These coins have appeared as prop coins in at least two films, "The Man Who Would be King" (1975) and "The Last Temptation of Christ" (1988).

    It may be a coincidence but both pictures were filmed in Morocco.

    :)
     
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