1943 Copper Cent Fake or Real

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  1. ranger10x

    ranger10x New Member

    Here is some pictures of a possible 1943 Copper Cent that we found from my Aunt coin collection that was inherited by my daughter. We came across this maybe copper 1943 cent. Could anybody let me know if it is a fake or real. It has already passed the magnet test.
     

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  3. cush66

    cush66 New Member

    Well ranger, I am not an expert and not even close. For your sake I hope it's real but to me the 4 and the 3 doesnt look right so I think it was altered.
     
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  4. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Take a magnet--if it go to the magnet its a fake...it may be one even if it doesn't go to it but that is the best way to find out.
    Speedy
     
  5. cush66

    cush66 New Member

    I think he said he did that already :)
     
  6. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Duh...I also think the 3 and the 4 looks funny but I guess I might send it to ANACS and see what they think...I will cost a little less than PCGS or NGC--about $15-$20.
    Speedy
     
  7. ranger10x

    ranger10x New Member

    When I use even the strongest of magnets there is zero attraction. I'm still questioning whether the 3 is real or fake.
     
  8. cush66

    cush66 New Member

    Well this is just my opinion as I said earlier I am not an error person but. The 3 in "43's", the bottom tail points down. Yours point level to up. Doesnt look like damage so I would guess the 4 was the altered number.
     
  9. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    It would more likey be the 4 is fake...it could be copper and have a 19_3 and they change the other number to a 4...
    Speedy
     
  10. ndgoflo

    ndgoflo Senior Member

    The second link really looks like a 1923-S to me.
     
  11. ranger10x

    ranger10x New Member

    I still cannot make out if the 4 is real or fake. I cleaned up the coin and toke two more pictures. One at 10 power and one at 60 power using my daughters Digital Blue Microscope.
     

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  12. Steve E

    Steve E New Member

    Unless you know for sure you will always wonder if it WAS. $15-$20 with ANACS is inexpensive verification.
     
  13. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Well...If it is a real one...the cleaning hurt it...most of the time cleaning is a big NO NO--BUT I'm going to say that it looks 100% like a Fake...now I'm not an expert...I've only collected for 4 years and will never know everything--but the to the right of the 4 you can see some lines in the medal...well that is what the fake cents I've seen looked like.
    You might still send it to ANACS or ask a dealer you trust.
    Speedy
     
  14. CoinOKC

    CoinOKC Don't Drink The Kool-Aid

    I'm no expert on Lincolns, but wouldn't the initial copper pieces in 1943 have come from the Mother Mint - Philadelphia? This piece appears to have an "S" mint mark. Have there been any verified copper pieces from San Francisco?
     
  15. lawdogct

    lawdogct Coin Collector


    Have to agree with you cush, here's a LINK to a great pict of a pristine 1943 steel on coinfacts.com The 3 definitely points down on the real deal.
     
  16. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    I haven't been able to find a definitive answer on any of the major websites dealing with U.S. cents and other copper coins, but a 1999 U.S. mint press release on 1943 copper cents seems to imply that all then known examples were from one mint - which would be Philly.

    Either way, that "4" reminds me of the one on a four-dollar bill I saw once. :D
     
  17. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    The coin in question is an altered date coin. The 3 has been altered, probably by removing the left side of the 8 on a 1948 S cent. Th cshape of the 3 on the coin in question is completely wrong for a real 1943. it should have a long tail curving downward.

    Genuine 1943 copper cents are known from all three mints. Most of them are from Philadelphia, there are four or five from San Francisco and a single specimen from Denver.
     
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  18. giladzuc

    giladzuc Senior Member

    The coins seems to be off metal strike and REAL. It is a used coin and it's condition shows it.
     
  19. Dockwalliper

    Dockwalliper Coin Hoarder

    Looks like a 48S with a section of the 8 removed.
     
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  20. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    Welcome to the forum giladzuc. You are making a positive statement about the coin in question which is directly oppposite to the opinions expressed by myself and others with many, many years of collecting experience.

    May I inquire what your experience and background in coin collecting might be?
     
  21. jtwax

    jtwax Senior Member

    It appears that your coin is an altered 1948 cent with the 8 modified to appear as a 3...
     
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