Worst filled die I've seen

I found this in change. Have no idea what the date might be. The coin is dark across the middle, but much of Liberty and all of the date is gone.

 

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someone torch it?

 

Not an expert but it DOES appear someone did something horrible to that coin.

 

It looks like a grease filled die to me. one of the best examples if so. Maybe Mike will see this post.

 

Counterfeit IMO

 

yeah, it almost does look fake

 

where is Mike?

Greased die, to me.

 

My guess...A FAKE

Bruce

 

Thanks for the imput. I figured if it had been torched, the copper plating would bubble. If it had been ground on, there would be zinc showing. I am submitting another photo with better lighting to see if it adds anything to determine if it is real or fake.

 

Wow, the dates completely gone, when you look at it from straight on. You can barely make out 195...but I cant make out the last digit at all. What is filled die. *~*SMILE*~* nikki

 

I have to go with grease. From the most recent pics, looks like a '94.

 

I still stick by Counterfeit, The letters and numbers look off. the lines on his jacket are to clear..
just looks weird.

 

Counterfeit? Why? If you mean post mint altered, there is a .005" coating of copper over the entire coin. I do not think that they could do that much "damage" without disturbing the copper coating.

As for the date, I vote for a 1996. If you look at the last digit, it rises above the level of the nines. The 6 is the only digit that is above level.

 

No I mean counterfeit.
The coin doesnt look real IMO

 

its definitly a 1994, you can see it in the 2nd picture

 

I don't see how this is a fake. I have some like it. In fact I have one where only the 1 is showing on the date. If someone torched it, it would look much worse. Why would someone counterfeit this cent?

 

The close ups really sway me toward alteration.

Notice how the "weak" areas tend to be much darker? Can't say how it was done but it sets off flags in my camp.

 

Put me down as 1994 and grease filled die.

I don't see it as an alteration because I see no way to remove those features post mint. You can't grind or smooth them off of a cold coin without destroying the copper plating. If you were to heat it to close to 800 degrees, the zinc inside will soften or even melt but if you then try to press out the letters you would find that the copper shell would still want to retain its form and you would wind up a dented and distorted surface rather than the smooth surfaces this coin has.

 

is the coin the proper diameter and weight?