I am trying to get as much input as possible. I have this posted in another forum and so far have received good feedback. I figured I would ask here too because I have received nothing but great feedback here. I am considering having coins sent to CAC and I am curious, as difficult as it can be from pictures, what people's thoughts are on these. 1) 1909-S VDB PCGS MS62BN 2) 1914-D PCGS XF45 3) 1916-D PCGS G4 I also have a 1909-S and 1931-S that I may consider but these 3 are the main ones since they are keys. I have looked at some CACed 1916-D coins that are G4, and it may be bias, but my coin is nicer than most of the CAC G4 I have seen.
yes, yes, and possibly. on the '16 D there are some distracting marks, and CAC may or may not like it
I have opinions from another forum. I am asking on this forum because there are members here who may have different advice/input. With the cost of submission and shipping, I want to make the most informed decision. I do not want to waste money.
As a US type set collector, I usually don’t even look at low MS coins. If I wanted a 9-S VDB, a CAC sticker on an MS62 could draw my attention as a potential buyer. I don’t see the point in submitting a G4 coin to CAC, but I guess collectors actively searching for a ‘16-D may have a different opinion
The two cents, more than likely. The dime, no. Ask yourself why do you want a CAC sticker? Is it worth the cost if they say no. This forum, the other forum and anyone else you ask can give their honest opinion but thst doesn't make us right.
I mean, they are not rare or ultra-valuable to some but they are ultra-valuable to me. My idea of a valuable coin is going to differ from yours. I'm sure others would agree as the majority of collectors do not have the money to purchase a 1909-S VDB, 1914-D or a 1916-D. But I appreciate the knock down.
Agree here. The definition of rare and ultra valuable will mean much different to collectors of different financial restraints. To say these 3 coins are not rare nor valuable is a definite knock down. If they were passed down from a family member than any amount of money couldn’t pry them from my hands. Also when considering supply and demand each of these is rare and also valuable. A Lincoln set and a Mercury set cannot be completed without these coins. How many albums and folders have a hole here because these much desired coins cannot be obtained? The market dictates these as rare and valuable so the opinion of @TheFinn is just that (an opinion). The value in these keys that the market has dictated and likely grown in value is fact. That cannot be argued. Back to if these should be CACed or not. I think it makes cents, pun intended, to get both the first two identified as solid for the grade. For the dime I don’t think you really want a green bean on a coin that low identifying it as solid for the grade. Unless it was certain to obtain a gold bean meaning it’s under graded would make it worthwhile and even then I don’t think it’s value would make it worth the additional cost. Good luck. Great coins you got there.
If you are submitting as a CAC member and not a dealer there is no charge for coins that don't receive the bean.
I agree that the cents may CAC, and with your observation that your coin could generally have better appearance than some CACed 1916-D G-4 coins. I however was surprised that the coin received a grade from a firm that is believed to have trashed a coin in litigation because of its "no scratch" grading policy. I suspect that the Obverse device scratches may limit possibilities. JMHO
In my opinion, and not to take away from the other two, the only one that would bean would be the first cent.
No.1 would bean, in my view. No. 2, maybe. I’m not sure about g grades, though I’ve seen CAC stickers on low grades. Doesn’t cost a fortune to find out.
I don't think that I would send any to CAC if it was me, nd to guess as to which would. True views are sometimes a glorified view of the coin and not an actual interpretation used by all. The photographer, is it still Phil over there? at PCGS, wants to show you it's finest side, as per his job. If I had a 2/3 guess I would say the 14D and the 16D both these show a better state of originality. Just my 2 cents.
Not a "knock down", just an observation. Getting green beans on them isn't going to make them more valuable. If they were in rare slabs, like black NGC slabs or even Doilies, that might make a difference.
Personally I wouldn't CAC them either. When I buy a slabbed coin I buy the coin not the slab. I could care less about a green bean sticker.
I think the 09 would bean. Maybe the 14-d. The merc is too banged up and I don’t think it would. I had a coin graded poor 1 cac before so they will grade low graded coins
Calling the coins not rare nor valuable is a knock down and is the type of attitude that could drive a fellow collector out of the hobby. We are all on the same team or should be at least. The OP never asked if a CAC sticker would make them more valuable. He actually didn’t even ask if they were even valuable to begin with. Securing a CAC sticker on them simply means they are solid for the grade which can potentially result in a stronger price from a buyer (experienced or not). Also to my knowledge CAC will buy back any coins they sticker so essentially they are creating a buy back market because of the confidence in their opinion. Lastly I think a rare slab is going to generate a premium simply due to the rare slab. CAC or not having nothing to do with it. That comment is funny to me because we always say “buy the coin and not the slab.” Getting a CAC sticker on a slab because a slab is rare is comical in of itself.