Top: Type I (75% silver) Middle: Type II (90% silver, lighter) Bottom: Cu-Ni I don't own a Type III yet, alas. I find the mid-1800s fascinating in US coinage because of the disruptions to the price of gold and silver due to the Gold Rush and then the Civil War. The 3-cent piece was introduced to match the denomination of the new 1851 prepaid postage stamp. It was also as a subsidiary coin with less silver content to replace the 90% silver coins which had been driven out of circulation by the relative rise in the price of silver caused by the Gold Rush. The Type II was needed to match the 7% debasement of the half dime, dime, quarter and half dollar of 1853 (the one which caused arrows to be added to the sides of the date). The fineness was raised to 90%, but the weight was dropped a bit, so that the 3-cent had move silver value than before and the other subsidiary coins had less, but at least they all matched. (The silver dollar was not debased in 1853, but those were not minted in large quantities in that era anyway.) The copper-nickel 3-cent was needed because of the Civil War, where unbacked "greenback" paper money drove precious metal coinage out of use. The bronze 2-cent piece and copper-nickel 5-cent piece (replacing the half dime) were introduced in that era for the same reason. The resumption of specie payments for greenbacks in the mid-1870s brought the dollar back up to par with gold and silver (while wrecking the economy in the Panic of 1873) and reduced the need for base-metal money. This contributed to the discontinuation of the 2 and 3-cent coins, though the nickel 5-cent piece is still with us.
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Can you tell me whats usually the view regarding coins with holes drilled in them? I have several and im not pleased because the really are nice
Well, probably better to start a new topic to get a full range of opinions and have other people notice your question. For me personally, I know that holes greatly damage the value of a coin, and it's usually worth the money to get a clean specimen of a given type. For an unusual type or something old and scarce, a holed specimen might be an opportunity to buy something at an affordable price that you might not otherwise ever see again. Holed specimens were often made into jewelry, so they are usually in not too bad condition otherwise as they didn't circulate much after being mounted. Just don't think of this kind of coin as an investment.
Just a few words about the 1857. Nice coin. Most of what looks like wear is actually a strike issue. They were so thin that they did not strike up very well and you will see many with die clash marks. If you have strong hands, you can bend the coin with your fingers.
Like @The Eidolon said, your should probably start a new thread. However, here's a little more info on it: https://www.cointalk.com/threads/holes-in-coins.201434/ BTW there are guys that only collect holed coins.
The nickel three cent coin has a special place for me. I've always been intrigued by it. Unfortunately, to scrape up funds to buy my retirement home I sold most of them. However, I still hope to build a complete set before I go to the harp farm.
Easy enough to rectify - there are a fair # of 1859s and a lot of 1861s for sale. Pretty much any grade you want. Don't bother with the Medallic Alignment 1861s. Yes it's an error. It's also a very common error and you don't need to pay the premium. It's common enough that you have to think they setup the dies wrong for an entire day of striking... the 497,000 coins were struck only on 7 non-consecutive days.
There are three types of just the 3 cent silver pieces. (And then the 3 cent nickel would be the 4th type.) Type 1 No Star Outline 1851-1853 Type 2 Three Star Outline 1854-1858 Type 3 Two Star Outline 1859-1873
The early 3CN dates were the kings of clashes. I had a nice 1866 where you could identify the date on the reverse. I once thought of building a nice set of clashed 3CNs.
I like 3CN type quite a bit. Sold my example as I was not happy with the look of it, been searching for one ever since that meets my criteria and my price. Looking back on it, my original coin was not actually bad looking.
I know. I'll have to either sell the house or my body to afford an 1885 business strike. I noticed that Great Collections has a nice one in an upcoming auction.
That was nice. Soothing to read. Do you have a 3 cent bedtime story? @wxcoin. Me and Rodney are waiting