cents: does the color matter?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by stainless, Jul 20, 2008.

  1. stainless

    stainless ANTONINIVS

    say if I had a:

    1909 VDB
    1909 VDB RD
    1909 VDB RB
    1909 VDB BN

    all graded by PCGS at MS-65, which one wold be worth more and why?, what is so important about the color?


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  3. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    The 1909 VDB RD, because it's as close as you can get to what the coin looked like immediately after it was struck.
    And that condition is considered the most desireable.
     
  4. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Ditto

    Ditto , just like people want high MS coins because thats closest to how they left the mint . Lincolns left the mint red .
    rzage:smile:hatch::hammer:
     
  5. stainless

    stainless ANTONINIVS

    k, thanks for the info
     
  6. Harryj

    Harryj Supporter**

    Red Red Red Red Red!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  7. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    As a general rule, reds are absolutely worth more. Just as a for instance, the 1926-S MS65 RED sold for $150,000, RB for $9,000 and BR for $1750. However, I have seen a lot more than one RB go for more than the RED if it has colored properly and has the appropriate eye appeal.
     
  8. clembo

    clembo A closed mind is no mind

    Yup.

    Red gets the big bucks. Some RB can be beautiful or fairly ugly.

    There are also those that love a nice, glossy brown coin. I'm one of those but they all work it's just what gets more money.
     
  9. grizz

    grizz numismatist

    cents:.........................



    you can only hope that you didn't buy the red, at $150,000, only to later have it turn to the $1750 brown!!!

    it's been known to happen, and then you get to challenge the guarantee!!
     
  10. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    Doesn't matter for me, if it's a nice coin. Color for me is just one of many things when I am looking at Lincoln cent. But, that's me, and y'all already know I'm weird. ;)

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  11. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    Personally, I prefer RB for a cpl reasons, at least 1933 and older.

    I don"t have to be so freakin worried the coin will "turn", and some of the gorgeous color coins come RB, and they are so more affordable.

    Dont pay a big premium for an ugly red coin ( like the 24-D on Teletrade yesterday ) when for 1/4 to 1/3 of the price you can get a beautiful RB !!

    In many cases, folks will overpay for a coin with inferior eye appeal because the holder SAYS RD and their registry is RED coins only.....it's a trap. Use your eyes and your instincts, buy the "better" coin !!

    RED is as stated above, the highest priced in MOST cases.
     
  12. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    As far as I know there have been no reports of a red turning to red/brown after being placed in a PCGS or NGC holder. At least that is what I remember reading somewhere. Having said that I prefer my indian head cents RB - not for fear of a red turning to red/brown, but just because I like the color better. So I do not fear my RB turning to brown. If you take care of them then they should be okay - just my own opinion.
     
  13. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    The bottom line with any coin is this : anything which affects desireability is important.

    Color, toning, unusual die variety, in some cases unusual die breaks...

    Anything which affects eye appeal.
     
  14. Coinfreak~24

    Coinfreak~24 Active Member

    more color more money!!!
     
  15. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    Another thing to remember - this is another case of "buy the coin not the slab".

    The two-letter designation is like the numeric designation - it's an opinion of a TPG and nothing more.

    So if you like the color, great. But it doesn't really matter whether the designation is BN, RB, or RD.

    Most coin types don't have color designation - copper does, but no others. But for all coins, color is very important.

    Recently, leadfoot had a "grading contest" on a shield nickel. That coin shows why color is so important - that one was really beautiful. Great color commands a premium - regardless of label designation.
     
  16. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Just bought a RB proof 64 Indian cent in one of the earliest NGC holders , should I get it put in a newer NGC holder to help stop it turning to Brown ?
    rzage
     
  17. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    Just send it to me, and you won't have to worry about that. :D

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    Mark ya need to look around more pal. There are many of them.
     
  19. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    GDJMSP has got it correct.
    Slabbing may slow the process, but improperly stored, a RD copper coin WILL go to RB.
    And given enough time, I suspect even to BR.
     
  20. Harryj

    Harryj Supporter**

    Jack,

    If you had a choice of a MS 66 RD 1909 S VDB Lincoln, or a MS 66 RB 1909 S VDB Lincoln which one would you take?
     
  21. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Neither one, I'd go buy 3 world gold coins and still have money left over ;)
     
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