Okay - got this coin yesterday. It is definetely a different die pair than my other 1922. I am thinking it is die pair two - correct? Not correct? The reverse actually has some wheat lines that can be seen. I was too lazy to take it out of the holder and I know I need brighter lights also. And thanks to Brad(at least I think it was his name) for his web site.
Nope - but I am out of the modern business except for ASE's. In this case I traded two 3 coin Silver Eagle Anniversary Sets, plus a little cash. I would rather have this coin than the 2 sets. I did not make as much on the sets as I wanted, but oh well. My buying seems to go in spells - I go a few weeks with out seeing anything I want and then the IHC's appear and a couple of other coins. As it is I missed a couple on ebay.
Hard to tell from pics, but it appears to have the " coattails " at 4:00/5:00 as seen on die pair #4, but the reverse has the sharp wheats..... One nice thing....we sure have had quite a few of the 22 noD's to look at around here recently. Also, this is much nicer than a cpl sets of modern silver anyday !! Congrats Jack
I'd much rather have a well worn old copper than a modern proof. Coppers were the working man's coin and they have so much life in them. :thumb: What life occurs in a bubble? The bubble has life but what's inside doesn't! Ribbit
I wuz think'n the same thing but I know nothing about them so I didn't say anything. It is taller than the first 2. Ribbit
I'm sorry, I'd say no on die pair 2. On die pair 2 IIRC, the last digit in the date (2) should be stronger than the rest. The Reverse should be strong. This coin exhibits uneven wear almost like it was acid dipped, except the center (an axis running from 11 to 5 o'clock seems to have the strongest detail. The thing that most makes me wonder is the reverse at 12 o'clock. The letters of "pluribus" are stronger than any detail on the coin, and the protected metal behind them is a different color and incredibly unpitted like the rest of the coin. My thought is that the "wear" is there to hide tooling marks from removing a D mint mark. I am not sure what die pair exactly this came from, but my opinion is that it is not from die pair #2.
Of course the PLURIBUS shows little wear since that's a "fingerprint" of where they were holding it while dipping it in the acid. :whistle: Ribbit
just, for what its worth. If you dont already know. No 1922 Lincoln cents were minted In philly. They were all minted in Denver, the No D and Weak D were results from polished and worn Dies. Makind the No "D" appear as if it was minted in Philly. If you knew this, then please.. ignore me
That 22-P (yes, I use toad's terminology) is not die#1, #3, or #4. However, I cannot see the lettering well enough to say it is die #2. As for a grade, I would think it would make net good - VG corroded and dinged.
The 3 die pairs can be identified as follows: Die Pair #1: Weak Reverse Second 2 in date is weaker than the first 2. First T in TRUST is smaller and more distinct than the other letters. WE is very mushy. Reverse is very weak, usually with no lines in the wheat ears. Die Pair #2: Strong Reverse Second 2 in date is sharper than the first 2. All letters in TRUST are sharp. WE is only slightly mushy. L in LIBERTY butts up against the rim. Reverse is sharp. Die pair #3: Weak Reverse Second 2 in date is weaker than first 2. TRUST is weak but sharper than IN GOD WE. L in LIBERTY butts up against the rim. Reverse is weak -- lower left part of O in ONE begins to spread into the field as the die deteriorates.
See the attached - at least 1 more snapshot to go. I think the above pictures show the mushiness of we an that trust is stronger. Same for 192 and the last 2 is definetly stronger. Low grade coins can be tough to identify, but I trust where I got this coin from.
Mark: I cannot definatively say what die pair this is. There are only the 3 die pairs, and I am unable to determine which pair it is. The coin is altered IMHO to confuse it with the more desirable die pair 2, but that is strictly conjecture. I think it is undeniably altered, though. I don't think that this coin commands a premium and would only purchase it with that in mind.
Second 2 seems to have the right rotation and bolder, but also looks different thatn it should imo. Also, curious about the recessed area in the latter pics below the 22 area. Maybe tooling maybe corrosion in a coincidental area.
