Which would you choose...

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Which would you choose?

  1. A) 1801 NGC MS 62

    3 vote(s)
    42.9%
  2. B) 1816 PCGS AU 58+

    4 vote(s)
    57.1%
  1. Burton Strauss III

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  3. Jaelus

    Jaelus The Hungarian Antiquarian Supporter

    Not true. The PL designation for world coins was not recognized for the longest time by either NGC or PCGS, so there are a lot of holdered coins out there that would get the designation if submitted today.

    Also, I get the impression that the TPGs arent always knowledgeable enough on a particular issue to know whether or not it is PL and not just the way the issue normally looks. It gets pretty complicated. This is especially true if they haven't seen an issue before and don't have it in the census. The TPGs have a stricter definition of PL than I do, but they also don't always get it right. I even had a DPL from NGC that was not a prooflike coin (it was the equivalent of a PL issue from the mint and so DPL would not apply by their own rules).
     
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  4. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Maybe it's the area I'm in but if a LCS doesn't have it on the label then it's not. It's easy to resubmit and hopefully it will be added.
     
  5. Johndoe2000$

    Johndoe2000$ Well-Known Member

    W/O defined parameters, it's just personal opinion, right ???
     
  6. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Hey that’s my favorite place to take videos. :p
    It’s good for toned coins, but not as good for others. I haven’t found a better spot yet but will keep looking. :)
     
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  7. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    I’ll add that it’s like any coin where there can be a range of quality within the same grade. Sure there is a general idea of the look and value for something like an MS 63 Morgan. However, you can have a monster toned 63, a blast white 63, a dirty technical 63, a semi-prooflike 63, etc. The holder will always say 63, but the coins will all be different and so will be the pricing.
     
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  8. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Eye appeal is definitely personal opinion.

    PL qualities are more objective. One can look at the coin and see that it is not a typical business strike or matte finish.

    If we don’t define the parameters though, one can still say there are pl qualities, but it will not be possible to say if something is semi-pl, pl, or dmpl.
     
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  9. Jaelus

    Jaelus The Hungarian Antiquarian Supporter

    I've bought original coins labelled as restrikes (no restrike mark), and restrikes labelled as original coins, a coin labelled as a klippe, copper coins without a color designation, label errors like wrong year or denomination, and so forth. The coin always trumps the label.
     
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  11. Burton Strauss III

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    +200

    I've bought 1851O three cent silver labeled 1851. and I own two of the three known slabs where the Grading company couldn't even spell their own name.

    And don't forget the famous Lousiana PCGS samples
     
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  13. ddddd

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    Ah the infamous Accurade :p
     
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