Howdy fellow coin peeps, :thumb: I was watching a Trade Dollar on Ebay and I thought it was a counterfeit but maybe I was wrong, so I figured I'd post it here for the experts to decide - Deal (real) or No Deal (counterfeit). :bow: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220251612225&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=012 Ribbit
I guess I'm not as familiar as I need to be. I see some "bubbles" and "loss of details" which I always thought was indicative of cast copies...but maybe not.
Besides the cast look of the rims on both sides, I don't like the double denticles on the obverse rim. Then there's the lower portion of the eagle on the reverse. I couldn't find any reason to think this was authentic and stuck it on watch to see if anyone would bid on it and on the last day, the bids went haywire. I feel sorry for the poor sap that bought it. Ribbit
$83 Is'nt that bad for a good counterfiet , or am I wrong , Toad , don't you collect counterfiets , whats a decent price ? rzage
I do not consider this a good counterfeit but Hobo would be more knowledgeable on that subject and if it was a good counterfeit and made of 90% silver, I'd say it would be worth double of melt so that would be around $35 now. Ribbit
All I have to go on is the pics in the auction. This does not look like a great counterfeit. It looks cast and is probably made of base metals. Personally I would not pay over $10 or $15 for it (and hopefully closer to $5). If I had the coin in hand and could determine if it was a better counterfeit than it is I might raise my price.
That's why I love this site the knowledge everybody brings , you can't help but learn something . Thanks again Toad & Hobo . rzage
No thank you. Ebay, no slab big red flags. We weigh them all at work these days and that one does look counterfeit on top of it all.
I don't know a lot about trade dollars. With that said, the thing that bothers me about that picture is the lack of attaching stems on the lower buds (bottom 2 leafs) and stem on the 2nd to lower bulb. However, if it is genuine, I’ll have to get my 77-cc back out and rethink it being a replica. The first is a pic I found online and the 2nd is one I have. You'll have to forgive my scan since this is the first time I've tried it, but I can assure you, there is no trace of a stem on my coin.
greetings! not that it matters by now as i have not been able to get here as much as i would like..but it looks fake to me. i really did not look close, but the denticles (not taking into account all unslabbed ebay trades are red flagged),, sent me a bad message. i do not know the value of fakes, but they can be useful. only hoping the person who buys it has knowledge of such. of course..no reserve on a cc trade makes me nervous also!! isn't it illegal to offer fakes w/o stating as such? if someone gets taken by these dealers..is there any legal recourse? still ebay illiterate............... best wishes, steve
