E-Bay forgery seller

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by bcuda, Dec 21, 2019.

  1. bcuda

    bcuda El Ibérico loco

    ominus1, Hookman and Broucheion like this.
  2. Avatar

    Guest User Guest



    to hide this ad.
  3. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..ahaha....that's almost funny..if someone buys that thinking its legit, they have no business in this hobby anyway i'd reckon...(and don't get me wrong, i've brought a few phonies meself:p)
     
    Last edited: Dec 21, 2019
    Hookman likes this.
  4. HawkeEye

    HawkeEye 1881-O VAMmer

    Good luck, they just change ID and do it all over again. I try to protect myself by only buying domestically and only buying TPG encapsulated coins. Even this isn't perfect, but it helps.
     
    Hookman likes this.
  5. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    If you scroll down to the item description, you will see "Report Item" on the right in tiny (of course) letters. Under "Report Category" select "Listing practices". Then, under "Reason for Report" select "Fraudulent listing activities". Then, under "Detailed Reason" select "You suspect that a listing is fraudulent". It's actually pretty simple to do once you know how.

    Maybe we should all pick out three or four of our favorite forgeries and report them. If enough of us did this, we might be able to shut these listings down.
     
    bcuda, pantherdev and Hookman like this.
  6. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ...that seller is in bulgaria(tho it shows Germany, pulling up his ID history, he's from bulgaria ..land o de phony coins n sellers)... he has 27 sales....charges 10 bucks for shipping and doesn't accept returns...in buyng coins on ebay, you'd better have a Missouri type outlook or you'll be buying bridges all day long...it's honorable what you're trying to do, but it's almost impossible to weed them out..he most likely is on a fake sellers list..and if not, soon will be...
     
    Last edited: Dec 21, 2019
    bcuda, Hookman and Broucheion like this.
  7. Ocatarinetabellatchitchix

    Ocatarinetabellatchitchix Well-Known Member

    I wish it would work...but don’t lose your time...most of fake sellers reported on FAC are old crooks just changing their Ebay names every year...so I think it’s an impossible task to shut them down.:(
     
    bcuda, Hookman and Inspector43 like this.
  8. Libby007

    Libby007 Active Member

    Simply put .... These individuals are Liars, Thieves, Crooks, Cheaters, etc, etc, etc! And, as such, they will find ways to continue and propagate the slimy practices. Oh, and BTW, eBay makes is sooooo simple for these miscreants to just flip the ID for another .... and, away they go running and laughing all the way to the bank.
     
    bcuda and Hookman like this.
  9. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    That's a pretty good-looking and therefore dangerous forgery, I think. Which shows my lack of experience, I suppose. The slight split in the flan is a convincing touch (so many fakes are too round and the edges are too neat). I'm no Flavian authority, but the style doesn't seem too bad either.

    Just shows that you can't be too careful!
     
    bcuda, Jay GT4 and Hookman like this.
  10. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    Considering that eBay makes its money based on sales, eBay has no real reason to prevent sales of anything fake. It's too easy for eBay, and other sales sites, to excuse themselves by saying "We didn't know.".
     
    bcuda and ominus1 like this.
  11. Libby007

    Libby007 Active Member

     
    Hookman and bcuda like this.
  12. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..i reported the bastiege to ebay(for all the good it will do)....but like @Hookman says, they are in it for the money (they will refund you if you can prove you bought a phony)...its laissez faire in its truest form..
     
    Hookman, bcuda and Chuck_A like this.
  13. Chuck_A

    Chuck_A Well-Known Member

    I report them using the drop down menu and choose the "prohibited and restricted items" under report category and then choose "stamps, currencies and coins" under reason for report, and then select the one that applies in the detailed reason for the report and you will be able to add an explanation for the report such as, counterfeits, copies and replicas, uncertified depicting a grade and so on. I believe it helps and ebay pays more attention to the report when you're able to include the personal statement in the report. I reported this item as a counterfeit copy in the added note.
     
    ominus1, Hookman and bcuda like this.
  14. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    Okay, it's easy to pile up on eBay, and much of the scorn is well deserved, especially from our perspective as collectors. But you must realize that eBay is in a damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't position. Just a few days ago there was a post from a seller who complained he was unfairly banned from selling on eBay for a month because he'd lost track of some of his inventory and had to cancel some sales.

    I sell a lot of coins on eBay. I wouldn't want them to shut down my sales simply because of an accusation from one or two of their several million users.

    EBay began as an online flea market. At any real flea market it is always "caveat emptor." There are flea markets--some large, some small--where I live. Dealers pay a fee for the space and sell whatever they want. No one polices their wares to assure legitimacy.

    I don't think anyone at eBay expected it to become such a popular venue for selling valuable items like ancient coins, but now it has. I think they could do a much better job at preventing known fraudulent sellers from reappearing the next day under a new name but with the same wares. But to ascribe this weakness to greed and duplicity is unwarranted and unfair. They are in over their heads and face an impossible task. The only way eBay can be 100% certain that no fake coins are listed on their site is to stop allowing the sale of coins altogether. Is that what we all want? Some of us, maybe, but I don't. I'd rather use due diligence and take my chances.
     
    Last edited: Dec 22, 2019
  15. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Yes, there are notoriously bad sellers on Ebay. But there are good honest sellers as well. Some of the sellers are members here on CT. Due diligence is the right phrase and the one to live by when buying on any venue. One thing I can say about Ebay, is that every time I have purchased a coin that turned out to be fake, Ebay or Paypal has refunded my purchase without any problems.
     
  16. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    i concur gentlemen..:)...
     
    Hookman likes this.
Draft saved Draft deleted

Share This Page