1996 D Penny. A zero on the E in ONE on reverse.

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Wade Marmon, Dec 18, 2019.

  1. Wade Marmon

    Wade Marmon Member

    Not sure about the ink blot or what's went wrong here but there's clearly a zero close to top of the E and the E doesn't look complete either. Screenshot_2019-12-18-01-24-11~2.png Screenshot_2019-12-18-01-24-11.png v
     
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  4. LaCointessa

    LaCointessa Well-Known Member

    or something gummy or dirty on top in that area? is there a raised ridge around that area or an indentation within the edge of that area?

    Clear and well-lit photographs of both sides of your coin would help us see it better. Your shots don't allow me to see what I want. I want to look sideways (as well) at that area.

    You say it looks like ink?
     
  5. Wade Marmon

    Wade Marmon Member

    Screenshot_2019-12-18-03-00-33~3.png Screenshot_2019-12-18-03-00-33~3.png Screenshot_2019-12-18-03-00-33~3.png Screenshot_2019-12-18-03-16-38~3.png Screenshot_2019-12-18-01-24-11~5.png Screenshot_2019-12-18-03-14-02~2.png Screenshot_2019-12-18-03-14-17~2.png The stain is through both sides. I took several pics now. Hopefully it helps. I'm learning. But it also appears machine doubling on the left outside the monument. As for any edge to the blot it does not appear so.
     

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  6. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I'm trying to understand what motivates someone looking for errors to think that every little splotch, stain, "face in the clouds" anomaly is a Mint error.

    Chris
     
  7. Wade Marmon

    Wade Marmon Member

    Knowing is half the battle. It's something not on coneca or doubleddie or ken potters or even cherrypickers list. So its either dumb or rare. You're welcome.
     
  8. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Understanding how coins are made is "basic training".

    Chris
     
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  9. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    @cpm9ball took the time and caring to say something. I, on the other hand, saw what you posted and said to myself, I need to stay out of this because I don't have the patience and tact for something like this right now.

    I'm not here to bash you (everyone thinks they have something 'rare' before they learn some things), but to see how @cpm9ball handled it. He did OK.
     
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  10. Wade Marmon

    Wade Marmon Member

    I've read every part on wexlers composite list of varieties and errors. This is nowhere. Outside of it's a phantom its raised! How did a zero get on the E?
     
  11. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    It looks like the "E" took a small hit and pareidolia has taken over. PMD!

    Chris
     
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  12. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    The "splotch" is corrosion, any position is coincidental. The outer 100% copper layer is one of the most common reactive metals, and that is what you have, and only that. It will not be in any publication or description as they are very common and worthless beyond 1 cent. Read in your mentioned searches ~ How real errors are formed and appearances~ rather than just comparing, and you will be at a better starting point. Welcome, it is a long journey to knowledge. Jim
     
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  13. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    It’s not a 0. It’s an artifact of the stain. There is a good chance that the copper plating was breached, and the zinc underneath has started to corrode resulting in a bubble that looks similar to a 0. The copper plating is approx. 8 microns thick (roughly 0.0003”), so it doesn’t take much to break through and zinc is very reactive. Who knows what chemical stained the coin, but it’s very likely to be unfriendly towards the zinc.

    Whenever you see “interesting” marks on zinc cents in the presence of physical or environmental damage, always consider zinc rot as a likely culprit.
     
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  14. Wade Marmon

    Wade Marmon Member

    Screenshot_2019-12-18-09-29-22~5.png Maybe better look i think it is a clash or struck through?
     

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  15. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    If you look around at other parts of the coin you will see other "issues" such as a weak strike/gunk in the die. For instance the "STATES oF" looks like a grease filled die.

    In one of your pictures, you can clearly see the E in ONE
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    zincolns are known to corrode if you look at them wrong. People seem to not want to believe that and think it must be something else.

    copper plated zinc coins contain all sorts of problems (plating blisters, bubbles, etc) that you should research to understand more.
     
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  16. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    here's a brief items - read 5, 6 & 7
    https://www.coinworld.com/news/precious-metals/unexpected-bumps-on-coins-surfaces-vary.html


    There is a book "Looking Through Lincoln Cents: Chronology of a Series" by Chris Daughtrey
    which goes over the "disasterous lincoln cents"
    since a few pages are public in google I'll show an excerpt
    https://books.google.com/books?id=A...&q=zinc cent mint mark corrosion fall&f=false
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    The most captivating statement though is the last sentence.
    "The only error on these coins is the Mint's decision to make cents with a vulnerable metal."

    So, when you look at mid 1982 and onwards (through TODAY) cents be aware that you will see a lot of problems with them. Just watch CT and many people post things that they think are "mint errors" which is just plain old corrosion of some type at some level of the cent itself.

    Remember, these are made for money, not for "collectors". their design was based on the ability of people identifying them as money to pay for stuff .. not to collect. Otherwise they should make each one much slower, more carefully, put them in their own silk bags and velvet boxes and sell each penny for $17.95 LOL
     
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  17. Wade Marmon

    Wade Marmon Member

    To everyone, apologies.
     
  18. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    Everyone here is to help everyone with questions learn.

    The BEST thing is that you learn from what you see and the responses. Then we've succeeded.
     
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  19. MatrixMP-9

    MatrixMP-9 Well-Known Member

    What in the heck would you apologize for? You seen something you thought was interesting, you posted it. Thats the whole idea of this forum. Now, if you go posting stains over and over and over along with demanding its a mint error "after youve learned"....you might have good reason to apologize.
     
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  20. Greg Bayes

    Greg Bayes Where's the loo?

    I apologize for some of the member's arrogant responses to your question.
     
  21. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Don't bother cleaning your mirror. It won't help.

    Chris
     
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