Rotated die

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by FoundinTN, Nov 26, 2019.

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Am I rotated enough?

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  1. FoundinTN

    FoundinTN Big AM

    Is this rotated enough to matter?
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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    It's within tolerance. Looks to be 10 or 12 degrees rotation. I think more than 45 degrees is desirable.
    But others can feel free to correct me.
     
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  4. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    Any value bump would be minimal at best, but I would keep it if I found it in change. It's 2x2 worthy IMO
     
  5. Chuck_A

    Chuck_A Well-Known Member

    Thank you! I've never looked at the tolerances for rotated dies. I do have several in graded examples like the OP's, but none of them command a premium.
     
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  6. Pete Apple

    Pete Apple Well-Known Member

    I asked the mint what the tolerance was for die rotations. Here is their answer:

    “For circulating denominations the coin rotation tolerance is typically: +/-6⁰

    For numismatic (proof coins, precious metals, commemoratives, etc.) denominations the coin rotation tolerance is typically: +/-3⁰”



    The most popular rotations are the 45⁰, 90⁰ and 180⁰ rotations.

    Collectors show little interest in rotations smaller than 45⁰, except for proofs which will start at about 20⁰.
     
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  7. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    Signs on the coining presses at the Philly Mint
    say that tolerance is 27 degrees.

    As Pete said above, it has to be at least 45 degrees to be collectable,
    I've found, with 180 degrees being the most popular and most valuable
    degree of rotation.
     
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  8. Pete Apple

    Pete Apple Well-Known Member

    The discrepancy between what I was told and the sign is curious! Must be some explanation??
     
  9. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    I have the photo on the Press, but I can't find it.

    I don't think 6 degrees is measurable ! (for our purposes)
     
  10. Pete Apple

    Pete Apple Well-Known Member

    If you find that photo, I would certainly like to see it!
     
  11. MatrixMP-9

    MatrixMP-9 Well-Known Member

    I would be excited to run across even 20 degrees! Sure no premium but cool when put into a 2x2. It would be fun to show the coin. I think this was the very first type of error I ever even remotely knew about and actually "flipped" pocket change over to determine.....yet never found one lol.
     
  12. 2manyhobbies

    2manyhobbies Well-Known Member

    I personaly would keep it. Found a few rotated nickels,But not a quarter. I also think drawing north/south and east/west lines on the 2x2 makes it easier to see how much rotation.
     
  13. FoundinTN

    FoundinTN Big AM

    I agree, I did 3 staples and not 4 so it would be easier to see.
     
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  14. 2manyhobbies

    2manyhobbies Well-Known Member

    Just for illustration purposes. Here is one of my nickels.
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