help with Identification please

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by snaz, Jun 15, 2008.

  1. snaz

    snaz Registry fever

    please help me with Identification and pricing for these Coins. I know very little about world coins, so the research I have done is very minimal only because I don't even know where to start.
    thanks in advance!
    the picture of the single coin Is the one Im most interested in, but any and all info would be accepted with open arms
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  3. snaz

    snaz Registry fever

    oo also, how do you like the new photos? Ive got a new light set up, and I like how it looks
     
  4. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    I know about as much about Chinese coins as Spock knows about girls. :goofer:

    Ribbit :D
     
  5. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    You have both mostly Japanese coins, but at least one is Chinese - the one on the right in the next to bottom row.

    There are hundreds of Japanese coins and thousands of Japanese/Chinese/Korean/Annamese of the same general style, cast for more than a millenium. I'm not really sure whether you have the obverse/reverse of each coin side by side or top to bottom, and in order to identify them I would really need to know which pairs of pictures go together.

    The ones with a pattern referred to as "waves" are definitely Japanese and the one I mentioned has Manchu characters which ID it clearly as Chinese, but I don't have my reference books handy right now so I can't tell you much more until I find out which pictures go together, and have access to my books tomorrow late afternoon or evening.

    BTW some of your pictures are upside down, or laying on their side, making it harder to read the characters.
     
  6. snaz

    snaz Registry fever

    thanks hontonai, the pictures go like this...
    the single coin posted in two separate pictures is the same coin obverse and reverse. and the picture with 4 coins in the first picture, and in the second picture, are in the same order just flipped to show the other side..
    so in the first picture. the coin in the top left is the same coin as in the second picture in the top left
     
  7. acanthite

    acanthite ALIIS DIVES

    I can't say much more about these, except to specify a bit more, hontonai, correct me if I'm wrong:

    Picture 1 (and 2) is Japanese, the Bun kyu Ei ho type, which was minted in 1863. To determine varieties on these, the weight and size are needed. Since the reverse has 11 waves, I assume it is a more common variety.

    Picture 3 (and 4):

    Top left - Japanese, Kuan ei Tsu ho type (could be minted anywhere between 1626 and about 1860 AD)

    Top right - Chinese, emporer Te Tsung (1875-1908), Ch'ing Dynasty

    Bottom left - Japanese, Bun kyu Ei Ho type, same comment as your first coin

    Bottom right - Japanese, Japanese, Kuan ei Tsu ho type (could be minted anywhere between 1626 and about 1860 AD)
     
  8. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    If it is ~26mm, I would agree. I'm not expert enough to see through the corrosion on the bottom character and determine which of the six varieties it would be. I can only exclude one of them. However, if it is ~29mm, it's a Shin-Kaneisen, minted in 1769, and the most common of the three "wave" reverse coins from that year. In any event, the obverse needs to be rotated 90º left, and the reverse is upside down.
    The usual Romaji (roman letters) spelling for the legend is "Kanei Tsuho" The obverse (lower picture) is upside down. Of the 16 cataloged varieties, differentiated by subtle differences in the calligraphy, I can only exclude the three most valuable ones based on the picture.
    Yup. Both sides are correctly oriented.
    My comments on the first coin generally also apply to these. The right side coin pictures are correctly oriented. On the left the reverse must be rotated 90º left, and the obverse must be rotated 90º right.

    Of course when discussing this style of coin "minting" means sand casting.
     
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