World Trade Center Coins Who Knows What

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by wtc911coins, May 27, 2008.

  1. wtc911coins

    wtc911coins Junior Member

    If anybody is interested I made a page about the different coins found under the world trade center. The coins where certified by PCGS and all came from the vault under the south tower of The World Trade Center. Many of the coins have marking from the intense heat and many of the Gold Eagles found are now more red in color than the gold color your normally see.

    The website is more for getting the information out there about these coin than anything else. I personally own very few coin but when I first found out about the coins I just had to know. So I build this website and I am looking for people that know more than me to help with the following.

    Pictures of coins found and population on coins found.

    That is right even though best in the world certification company PCGS certified all coins they forgot or do not have available the population report on any of the coins from the world trade center. I have thought research and talking to people about the coins gotten some population on some coins from the WTC vault but there is still much work to be done.

    I don't know if a url to the website is allowed but here it is www.wtc911coins.com

    I hope you guys will like it and hopefully I will find somebody that knows alot about these coins and he or she will write me.

    Thanks for your time

    Jacob
     
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  3. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Don't know much about the Trade Center coins , but welcome to CoinTalk.

    rzage
     
  4. wtc911coins

    wtc911coins Junior Member

    Thank it looks like a great place to hang out.
     
  5. Indianhead65

    Indianhead65 Well-Known Member

    I've heard about these coins before but I cant remember where. Just curious, why was there a vault underneath the WTC south tower? Was there a bank there? If these PCGS coins were already encapsulated in PCGS plastic how is it known thats where these actually came from? Did PCGS re-slab the coins and add new labels stating and authenticating these were found at the WTC site? I'm not trying to be difficult, just curious. Thanks
     
  6. wtc911coins

    wtc911coins Junior Member

    Hope this will answer your questions.


    Inside tower 1 of the World Trade Center, the Commodities Futures Trading Commission held what was known to the investment world as the COMEX vaults. Inside this network of vaults was a vast collection of investment grade Silver, Gold and Platinum held by a variety of financial institutions from around the globe. When the Twin Towers fell, no one expected to find anything salvageable.

    As the cleanup effort continued, on November 1, 2001 the workers at ground zero reached the Iron Mountain vault located directly under the World Trade Center. Inside were Silver, Gold and Platinum bullion as well as coins from around the world that miraculously survived the disaster. The coins recovered were from various countries around the world.

    Under high security, the coins were loaded into Brinks Armored vehicles and sent directly to Collectors Universe, the parent company of the world renowned (PCGS) Professional Coin Grading Service. They were then cataloged, graded and encapsulated in the patented PCGS high security tamper resistant capsules along with a specially designed commemorative United States Flag insert that immediately identifies the coin as a genuine artifact recovered from Ground Zero at the World Trade Center. No coin will ever be slabbed with this special Flag insert ever again as it is copyright protected specifically for these magnificent pieces of American History
     
  7. wtc911coins

    wtc911coins Junior Member

    WTC Coin time line

    So let me try and put the time line together as best I can
    • 1 November 2001 the works at The World Trade Center reaches the Iron Mountain Vault
    • 1 November - 1 December 2001 Coins are sent to Collectors Universe for certification. Collectors Universe does not grade coins and so the coins are only listed as "Gem Uncirculated" and the coin and series numbers are not on the label. At first these coins are sold by dealers that are advertising that a portion of the sale price would go to the relief funds for the families. Several different types and dates of coins appeared in these holders.
    • 1 December 2001 PCGS gets into the picture and start grading coins from ground zero, but at first only gold and silver coins from 2001 are graded. The grade coins being slab by PCGS has both barcode and serial number on the back and many has series number on them (1 of ???) . The barcode is hidden behind the hologram. At first this series only consisted of MS-69 2001 gold and silver 1 oz eagles.
    • January 2002-June 2002 PCGS start grading all kinds of dates, types, grades, and special "limited editions" coins from many different countries. The PCGS version came out about 4 months after the attack and all the varieties and limited editions more than a year after the attack.
    • January 2004 WTC coins start getting included in PCGS registry sets at first PCGS has a hard time finding the coins in their database but at the end they do and people are registering the WTC coins in their sets.
    • January 2002 - Present On going talks about these coins if they are "death coins" or a part of history is going on as the coins increases in value compared to other PCGS graded coins from the same year.
    • Why are WTC coins different than other types of memorabilia? Slave artifacts are big business especially among those who have had relatives that were slaves. WWI and WWII items are big business. I guess when it comes down to it, I collect coins because I enjoy them and the HISTORY is something I enjoy most about collecting.
     
  8. silvermonger

    silvermonger Member

    It is just another slab scam, drape a $10 coin in a flag dripping with pain and loathing, encapsulate in a piece of appropriately cheap plastic and charge $100. Co-opt emotion and nostalgia and make big bucks. I think the whole 9-11 souvenir deal is disgusting.
     
  9. wtc911coins

    wtc911coins Junior Member

    WTC "9-11 souvenir"

    silvermonger: WTC "9-11 souvenir"

    I think a souvenir is a t-shirt or a coffee cup this is coins that made it out of the vault from the world trade center. I understand that the coins are not something you are collecting but I don't think the historic significant of these coins can be summed up as WTC 9-11 Souvenir.
     
  10. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    The WTC had several banks, the customs court house and deep vaults for silver and gold storage.

    Ruben
     
  11. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    BTW - I'm not convinced that this is not just unhealthy profiteering on the devastation of the WTC.

    Ruben
     
  12. wtc911coins

    wtc911coins Junior Member

    The WTC coins that PCGS graded came from the vault under World Trade Center #4 where The Toronto-based Bank of Nova Scotia had their vault.

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    "The Toronto-based Bank of Nova Scotia has said its vault under 4 World Trade Center alone held more than $200 million in gold and silver. Bank spokeswoman Pam Agnew didn’t immediately know if any of that gold was found last night."

    This is where all the coins where bought from and sent to PCGS by Brinks security trucks.

    And yes they where all driven to Long Beach California from New York for Grading.
     
  13. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member


    I think this is self-evident and it's a fairly twisted view of things. I have some bone fragments of Auschweitz and Sobor. Maybe you'd be interested in buying them?

    Ruben
     
  14. goossen

    goossen Senior Member

    I agree. It looks like a scam...
     
  15. wtc911coins

    wtc911coins Junior Member

    I think in 20 years maybe less we will all look at it differently just my opinion.
     
  16. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    Well its an opinion based on selfish greed, and self serving speculation.

    Ruben
     
  17. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member



    I believe this has reached the point of being blatant spam and deserves to be removed from the board under forum rules.

    Ruben
     
  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    No rules have been broken, or even bent. The man is not selling anything, he is merely presenting information and expressing his opinion just like you Ruben. And whether or not we agree with his opinion or even like or dislike it doesn't matter. He is still entitled to express it - just like you.
     
  19. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    Obviously and apparently I BROKE the rules whence I replied to this thread with the following:

    Because poof my response was deleted. Like I never wrote it. I stand behind what I wrote, which was deleted by a mod, whom NEVER considered my opin was NOT a personal attack, but an opinion of business of the marketing of this nonsense.:eek:
     
  20. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    It it telling that Ruben can render an opin, and it stays, GD can, and it stays etc. But I wait for mine to disappear again...
     
  21. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Regardless of what you seem to think, no one is ever singled out and no one is ever picked on around here. If your post was edited or deleted then who ever did it thought it was the right thing to do. I assure you, it had nothing to do with you personally.
     
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