1846 Shipwreck Yeilds Hoard Of Charlotte & Dahlonega Gold Coins

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Hobo, May 15, 2008.

  1. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    I can dream of owning ONE well-circulated gold coin minted at the Dahlonega Mint. Imagine finding a shipwreck that held hundreds of uncirculated gold coins minted at Dahlonega, Charlotte and New Orleans.

    Coin dealers examining gold find off La. coast

     
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  3. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    yea i read that but why only one coin why not more? if those coins go on the block pleas elet me know :D
     
  4. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    What does that mean? The guys found hundreds of coins. I'm sure they will sell pretty much all of them (partly to pay the HUGE income tax bill they are going to owe).
     
  5. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    i meant why do you want just one coin? income tax or treasure tax?
     
  6. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    Ahhhh, now I understand you. I would be happy with a single example of a coin minted in my home state of Georgia. Being pretty much a type collector I don't need to complete a set. (And completing a set of Dahlonega coins is a tad beyond my means.)
     
  7. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    It will be interesting to see a census of this find ! Should make these Cs and Ds much more affordable...

    I suppose they'll sell 'em slow, so as to not cause too much market shock. Let's stay on top of this one !
     
  8. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    We'll see what happens for these to come into the marketplace. Remember how the SS Republic, Brother Jonathan, and several other shipwreck treasures were held up by legal battles in the courts that lasted years if not decades. You can best bet, if any insurance entity has even the remotest claim, or if some state or federal government thinks they have any claim, they will challenge this find and tie it up. Sorry but that is how American "justice" works.
     
  9. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    To my knowledge, all of these coins have "the shipwreck effect", otherwise known as a sandblasted look from the time they spent in the ocean. IMO, they are all damaged coins. Neat, and an important part of history, but damaged, and they will likely trade at reduced prices relative to their state of preservation in the secondary market (and likely overpriced when they first come to market). All IMHO...Mike
     
  10. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    You bet ! And I'm glad it does. If someone has a claim, they should have their day in court.

    And I'm glad other "nations" practice "justice"... the recent Spanish claim to treasure found off their coast is a good case in point.

    Any one know where that one is right now ?
     
  11. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    Well the salvors are still coy about the so called "Black Swan" but have acknowledged the obvious, that the ship is Spanish.
     
  12. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    Interesting... any updated links on that one ? Last I heard there was rumor the ship was discovered off the British coast.

    But there is much which is not "obvious"... for instance, what points of law rule this particular shipwreck, considering its original nationality and discovery site. Statutes of limitations, maritime jurisdiction... I'm glad people with claims get a shot at justice. This might be a complex case which takes time to sort out.

    http://www.statesboroherald.com/news/archive/3750/
     
  13. cesariojpn

    cesariojpn Coin Hoarder

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Swan_Project

    Proverbial storm over Territorial Water, Gibraltar, ZOMG destruction of History, etc.
     
  14. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    What is ambiguous in that wiki citing, the Odyssey ships were porting in Gibraltar, which they would not do for the ship 41 miles off of the English coast, but quite possibly would if the wreck were off of Portugal or Spain.
     
  15. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    It will be interesting to see how the dust settles ! :confused:

    When folks are closely guarding the facts, it's often hard to tell truth from rumor - especially with all the glamour of a $500 million dollar shipwreck. Sometimes what is "known" as "fact" turns out to be erroneous.

    Interesting thread, guys. Let's stay tuned in !
     
  16. Jonathon

    Jonathon New Member

    I don't understand how any of those coins from a shipwreck can look very nice at all after sitting in salt water for over 150 years.
     
  17. davdo

    davdo Senior Member

    Are there any pictures of these coins out there anywhere? I'd love to see them. I, too, would love to have one of the Dahlonega coins--I grew up outside Atlanta and have 'panned' for gold in Dahlonega. Neat place!!
     
  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Because gold is basically impervious to the effects of salt water. Silver is not.
     
  19. jmc7983

    jmc7983 Senior Member

    http://www.goldrushgallery.com/dahlmint/show_mon_pic14.html

    here is a whole set of each of them
     
  20. davdo

    davdo Senior Member

    Very interesting. Thanks.
     
  21. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    I noticed the salvors acquired title to the ship in federal court so they own it lock-stock-and-coins. :D I don't believe anyone can lay claims, other than the owners of the vessel and insurance companies that paid out claims.

    So, since they now legally own the vessel, their claim to the loot is pretty solid. :thumb:

    Ribbit :)
     
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