Bank of Upper Canada 1857 Penny Token, no legend

This Penny Bank Token has no lettering either side apart from the date.
Exact same size and weight

Is this an error, counterfeit or known coin?

 

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I like this. I gave my entire Bank Of Upper Canada collection to my son. He is filling in some small gaps in the collection. I will talk to him and see if he has any information.

 

This is the first one I've seen with no writing, however, the spacing on the devices relative to the rim makes me believe that it's intentional.

 

Both weigh 15.8 grams, the one on the right I've had 4 years, the one on the left I got today.

 

Perhaps I should stand corrected. The spacing looks the same in these pix.

Thanks DD.

 

Bases on discoloration, faint letting visible, and what looks like smearing elsewhere, I'm at details grade, tooled.

 

So, to you it looks like some one wiped it out on purpose?

Personally, I can't tell nor call it, one way or the other. Especially not from just photographs.

When in doubt , SEND IT OUT !!

Let a paid professional say what it is.

 

I feel pretty confident in my conclusion, enough to say that if it straight grades as an error or pattern, I'll pay the submission costs.

 

FWIW, I agree with @Seattlite86 it looks tooled. Look at it closely under magnification and see if you can determine any letter remnants or evidence of uneven surfaces that might not show up on pics. I have a modest collection of Breton tokens and can't recall coming across references for anything like this.

 

I looked at your pix, S86, and the only one I could tell anything about was the top one with the very small circle in which I think I can see the remnants of an E, but Like I said, I can't be sure of anything with any of those pix, his or yours.

 

The consensus is starting to be that the lettering was purposely eradicated.

 

I've been busy workwise and unable to respond.
I will take some microscope shots later and see if I can get to the bottom of it.

 

as an amateur engraver and die cutter, I have done this to coins for no other reason then it gives practice at cutting a smooth surface and they look cool. motivation varies from person to person. Looking forward to seeing the close up pictures.

 

I can think of 2 possible purposes right away.
1). Just for fun, for something to do. (See post by Badger Mint.)

2) For nefarious purposes such as to create something "new and unknown" that may possibly have a large premium.

 

Call me crazy. I don’t think it’s real. Not a counterfeit as there is no value or country. Some details are mushy where they shouldn’t be.

 

You're crazy it's just a damaged coin.

 

I have a bunch of upper canada coins. There all old. When do they start getting interesting. (dates)

 

Here are a couple of links that might help.

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces1121.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coinage_of_Upper_Canada

 

Oh my. Ythanks so much