1947 D Nickel

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by FoundinTN, Sep 17, 2019.

  1. FoundinTN

    FoundinTN Big AM

    I pulled this beautiful golden tone nickel out of a bank roll a few months ago. I just got back around to looking at it and I think that it has (from what I understand) indirect design transfer displayed on both sides of the coin. You can clearly see the impressions in the fields..kinda like a clash I guess.
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    After taking some pictures and looking closer...the face of Jefferson almost looks doubled near his eye and nose...probally just some kind of marking or ware. I cant say for sure,it is interesting tho.
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  3. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Yes to indirect die transfer. No to doubled die or clash.
    Just happens when the dies are used a lot.
     
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  4. MeowtheKitty

    MeowtheKitty Well-Known Member

    That would be a great CRH find. Did you get it that way?
     
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  5. FoundinTN

    FoundinTN Big AM

    Yep,right out of a coin roll ,I sat it aside because of the really nice gold patina on it.
     
  6. Inspector43

    Inspector43 Celebrating 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    Very nice.
     
  7. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    Gold patina may suggest it came out of an album (liberated).
     
  8. MeowtheKitty

    MeowtheKitty Well-Known Member

    What do guys think it would grade at? Meow thinks MS63NCOS. (NO Chance Of Steps)
     
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  9. Shrews1994

    Shrews1994 Collecting is my passion.

    That's a nice nickel. It has alot of worn die. and yes to indirect die transfer.
     
  10. Inspector43

    Inspector43 Celebrating 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    How can a coin that was found in circulation and does not represent the design properly because of the "ghost" impression get an MS grade of any kind?
     
  11. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    If there is no evidence of wear, a coin found in circulation would grade MS.
     
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  12. John Skelton

    John Skelton Morgan man!

    Okay, how does an indirect die transfer happen? And how often do they happen?
     
  13. Shrews1994

    Shrews1994 Collecting is my passion.

    This is a lesser known form of die deterioration which transfers design outlines from one die to the other. Since there are many types of design transfer (clashed dies, brockages, etc.), it is preferable to call this type of design transfer “Progressive Indirect Design Transfer” or “PIDT”. Other synonyms you’re likely to encounter are “heavy design transfer”, “internal metal displacement phenomenon (IMDP), and “ghosting”.the force of the strike is transferred into and through the planchet and onto the opposing die (reverse or anvil die). Since the dies are slightly convex, the strongest force felt on the planchet is in the center of that planchet.
     
  14. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Dang, you're getting good at this stuff...
     
  15. Prez2

    Prez2 Well-Known Member

    Wow. I really need glasses I suppose. I need to stop collecting varieties.
     
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  16. Inspector43

    Inspector43 Celebrating 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    I need glasses too. But, I like the varieties, so I have big magnifying glasses and a microscope.
     
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  17. Prez2

    Prez2 Well-Known Member

    Geez, I have probably 20 different magnifiers scattered around. One microscope. Still can't see.
     
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  18. MeowtheKitty

    MeowtheKitty Well-Known Member

    Meow once met a retired Professor that was technically blind, but he like to read. He had a set up at home where the letters on the page where magnified to fill an entire monitors screen, one letter at a time.
     
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  19. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    I'll say !!
    She IS kind of a big deal, isn't she?
     
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  20. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    That's pretty remarkable for a CRH find.
     
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