Ancients => Zeus & Pan

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  1. cmezner

    cmezner do ut des Supporter

    I am trying to attribute this Triobol, and once again I am very confused and need help here:shy:;
    According to acsearch:
    https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=760001

    it is from ARKADIA, Arkadian League. Circa 175-168 BC.

    However, the Arkadian League at the latest had vanished by the 230s BC, as the Arcadian cities joined the Achaean League (https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Arcadian_League)

    What am I missing? :confused: If the Arkadian league had already vanished, why is it still attributed to the Arkadian League?

    This is the AR Triobol, anepigraphic issue:

    14 x 15 mm, 2.27 g
    Ref.: Dengate Period III, 1-7; BCD Peloponnesos (Megalopolis) 1548-9; HGC 5, 932.

    Ob.: Laureate head of Zeus left;
    Rev.: Pan seated left on rock, raising right hand, holding logobolon in left; to left, eagle with wings spread

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  3. Broucheion

    Broucheion Well-Known Member

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    HADRIAN - DICHALKON
    ALEXANDRIA, EGYPT Year 11 (126/127 CE)
    EM-1196.11; G-0972; M-1238; BMC-0702, 2879 var: Date LI - A.


    OBV: Hadrian laureate head facing right. No legend, Solid border.
    REV: Pan of Mendes advancing to left, arms raised, left arm cradling a lagobolon (a throwing stick used for hunting rabbits). In his left hand he carries a small bag (perhaps to secure the quarry?) In left field: L; In right field: IA. Solid border.

    There are two sub-varieties: Pan with pedum (e.g. BMC 700-701, 2879) and Pan of Mendes with club and pedum (BMC 702, 2878).

    -Broucheion
     
  4. Terence Cheesman

    Terence Cheesman Well-Known Member

    Tetradrachm of Alexander IV with Antipater as regent in the name and types of Philip II of Macedon 323-315 B.C. Obv Head of Zeus right Rv Nude jockey on prancing horse right Pella Le Rider 524 14.35 grms 24 mm philip II-16.jpg
     
  5. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    ARKADIA

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    ARKADIA Tegea
    AR Tetartemorion 0.2g 6mm
    423-400 BCE
    Helmeted Hd Athena Alea
    T within incuse
    BCD Peloponnesos 1721 HGC 5
     
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  6. Ed Snible

    Ed Snible Well-Known Member

    This coinage is cataloged according to Alan Walker's magnificent catalog of BCD's collection. The issues of Magalopolis in this period are sometimes given to the Arkadian League, sometimes to the Achean league.

    On page 367 he says the coinage of Megalopolis "seems to have alternated between triobols of the Arkadian League type ... with added eagle ... and the usual hemidrachms of the Achaean League". He says the arrangement is from J. A. Dengate ["The Triobols of Megalopolis" in ANS Museum Notes (1967) p. 51-110, but the dates are from [Margaret] Thompson "The Agrinion Hoard".

    BCD #1542-1544 he calls "Archaen League types, c. 175-168". BCD #1545-1549 he calls "Arcadian League Types, Dengate Periods IIB and II, c.175-168". BCD #1550-1551 he calls "Achaean League types, c. 160-146"

    Coins with the wreath he calls Achaen and the coins with Pan on Rock he calls Arcadian. I don't have Dengate or Thompson. If you are still curious you can look there next.
     
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