1909-D $5 Indian

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by rotobeast, May 4, 2008.

  1. rotobeast

    rotobeast Old Newbie

    I was rummaging through the safe and found this little bugger in an air-tite.

    I'm not real good at grading these, so what do you guys think of it ?

    :)


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  3. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    There are a number of coin series that are particularly nasty to grade.
    This series is one.
    Peace dollars is another.

    Takes a specialist almost.
    I'm not.
    I'll pass on rendering an opinion.

    But what I can do is show you my slabbed one for comparison.

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  4. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    Kanga's right... tricky to grade unless in hand.

    Roto, yours has good detail in the headdress feathers. I would call it AU53. Decent fields; since they lack rims, many of these endured field nicks and marks.
     
  5. Spider

    Spider ~

    solid AU 55 unless there's more luster not in the pic maybe?
     
  6. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    I have a terrible time grading these things in-hand, so from photos I'd guess somewhere between XF and MS. :D
     
  7. Scubasteve500

    Scubasteve500 Senior Member

    man i wish i could rumage through my collection and just have beautiful coins appear like that lol
     
  8. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    I have been hesitant to mention this - and I am NOT saying I think this coin is counterfeit - but the marks on the Indian's neck concern me. Tool marks on the back of the Indian's neck are one of the most common indicators of counterfeit $2 1/2 and $5 Indians because this is the lowest point on the coin and correspondingly the highest point on the obverse die. Counterfeiters often try to clean up this spot on their die and leave a few "tool marks" which appear as raised lines on the coin.

    Can you take a close look at these marks and determine if they are raised?
     

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  9. rotobeast

    rotobeast Old Newbie

    I'll dig her back out and check.
    :)

    I honestly had suspicions about it, due to the chest area on the obv.
    It didn't have that frost look on it that you see on Kanga's example.
     
  10. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    wow thats the same year that i have when i forst saw i thought my old thread came back up :) yeah look for those marks if its good i would grade it a 55 ( my mentor runs around with olive oil these days ready to burn me in it if iguess grades wrong) lucklily his memory isnt bvery good :D
     
  11. rotobeast

    rotobeast Old Newbie

    Suuuuuuure he's "burning" you with the olive oil.
    :D
     
  12. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    he also forgets that i hav access to the transporter :D
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Boy it sure is gettin deep in here :rolleyes:
     
  14. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    ?
     
  15. rotobeast

    rotobeast Old Newbie

    Did you ever send him that Morgan ?

    *ducks*

    :D
     
  16. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    ducks ? You better run too ! :D
     
  17. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    are you feeling unwell ? :D
     
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