Question about die doubling

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Juggalo, Sep 5, 2019.

  1. Juggalo

    Juggalo Active Member

    I was checking out the pictures of different DDOs and DDRs varietyvista.com and to be honest a lot of them I really had to take and look closely to see anything and I would've thought it was after mint damage and some I would've said it was what I've been told was machine doubling. Has anyone else checked out this site and what do you think about it. I wish I could've included some of the pictures as examples of what I'm talking about. After looking at this site I'm sure I spent a lot of coins I shouldn't have.
     
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  3. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    variety vista is legit. MOST doubling is minor and, in my opinion, not worth the time or effort to spend looking at it.
     
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  4. Handyman

    Handyman Well-Known Member

    Yes it's A good site I use it all the time.
     
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  5. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Like *furry* said, most are so minor that it's hard to see them.

    Chris
     
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  6. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Don't even worry about that. Not worth it.
     
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  7. Juggalo

    Juggalo Active Member

    So if the doubling isn't obvious like (I think it was) the 55 penny it's not worth bothering with?
     
  8. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Once some sites lists one, it is very seldom re-evaluated and possibly removed. I only collect the ones that are visible and of little doubt. You will notice that the different sites have different numbers of such that they recognize and the major grading services only recognize a selected group also,


    For your question above, which 55 are you referring to ? Certainly not the '55/55 DDO-001 you can recognize 3 or 4 feet away. but have to look with a magnifier to verify as there are many copies.


    Jim
     
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  9. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Some doubling is valuable most are not. Use the Red Book by Yeoman.
     
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  10. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    There are many different types of "doubling"

    Much of the more modern doubling from the Single Squeeze process is just fattening of letters. Some of it's worthwhile to search for if you really like CRH.

    Best thing to do is learn each detail of each type of Doubling.
    And then also learn how Mechanical/Ejection Doubling and Die Deterioration happens and it's characteristics.

    Until then, it's going to be confusing.
    Well, actually, even after that it will still be confusing but you'll know a lot more about it. lol

    After you learn about doubling, you can scour varietyvista for the doubling that you like, and make a "search for" list. This will alleviate a lot of headaches and fruitless searches that usually end up MD and DDD.
     
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  11. coinquest1961

    coinquest1961 Well-Known Member

    VarietyVista is a great site that I visit often. A worthwhile doubled die doesn't have to have a spread like the 1955/55. I don't bother with the minor stuff, tho. If it can't be seen with a five power glass then I generally ignore it.
     
  12. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    I only bother searching for a few different doubled dies. 55P (obviously), 69S, 72P, 83P, 84P. Those are the biggies. The other small stuff I don't bother with.
     
  13. Juggalo

    Juggalo Active Member

    Ok I have to cointalk is absolutely awesome all of you give the best opinions and advise. Now I know what MD stands for but what's CRH and DDD stand for? Also I'm going to check into the Red Book that was recommended. Also I just came across 3 new coins I'm going to post some pictures of once I can some decent ones. The thing is 1 is a die crack and 2 are cuds (I think that's what they're called) I haven't really seen anyone talking about those so I'm wondering if that's ok?
     
  14. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    MD = Mechanical Doubling
    ==> one place to read https://www.ngccoin.com/news/article/5688/Double-Dies-vs-Machine-Doubling/

    DDD= Die Deterioration Doubling
    ==> another website to peruse http://www.error-ref.com/die-deterioration-doubling/

    CRH = Coin Roll Hunting (self explanatory)

    oops, you didn't ask for MD ...

    avoid YouTube and websites that lack overall information about a wide variety of stuff. Real short articles tend to be disinformational clickbait. YouTube is generally just clickbait too.

    and another good website to use ==> http://www.lincolncentsonline.com/mechanicalDoubling.html
     
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  15. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Clawcoins explained the CRH, DDD and MD. A die crack will be raised, if not, it's probably damaged. A CUD must touch the rim. Of course that's ok, just start a new thread.
     
  16. Juggalo

    Juggalo Active Member

    Thanks for the links and abbreviation explanation. It looks like cud is the wrong term what would a small blob of metal not against the rim be?
     
  17. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    A Die Chip is the term.
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  19. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    A die chip like alurid said. This is a Cud:
    IMG_2898.JPG
     
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  20. Juggalo

    Juggalo Active Member

    Die chip. So that's a cud. That's definitely a good word for that. Thanks everyone as soon as I get some decent pics I'll post a new thread.
     
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  21. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    You're welcome, it's large and most are not this size but I have seen larger.
     
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