İ have heard these are fake by some experts through the pictures? Are they really, if so?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by memeni, Sep 3, 2019.

  1. red_spork

    red_spork Triumvir monetalis

    Well the coins get from the ground to the market somehow. I suspect there are plenty of people in Turkey who know all about ancient coins and owls in particular.
     
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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    First, I agree with @Plumbata. Give a little slack. It will be obvious later if the poster turns out to be a troll. For now, he/she seems to be asking legitimate questions.

    Second, as for this crowd being very intelligent as @lordmarcovan suggests, then I must be in the minority. There are many times I feel less than qualified to comment.
     
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  4. Volodya

    Volodya Junior Member

    Most ancient coins have survived a lot worse than being dropped.
     
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  6. memeni

    memeni Member

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    Can you also help me w these?
     
  7. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    I'm all for second chances, but will point out that our new friend did offer to sell fakes to this community after we had let him/her know that what they posted had been certainly fake. Everything they have posted has been fake. This is not out of context, they flat out said even if they didn't know if it was real or fake they would sell to us, " I am willing to sell them and I am willing to learn the best techniques on identifying what's real and not."
    Awwww, I want to learn but am willing to rip you off while you give me free knowledge.
    Here is their first threadhttps://www.cointalk.com/threads/is-this-gold-coin-fake-or-real.344427/
     
  8. memeni

    memeni Member

    Thank you this is why..

    Anyways... İ hope this forum helps better. Tell me now why are these Athens are fake ? How could you tell?
     
  9. memeni

    memeni Member

    What u trying to say ? İ am not offering anything. İ know ppl here are not stupid enough tobuy fake stuff. İ am willling to learn since i want to get serious at these things
     
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  10. Plumbata

    Plumbata Well-Known Member

    All that was established in the thread you linked to was that the items weren't coins. I don't know much about ancient jewelry but at least the intaglio looked convincing, and while a bit perplexing and not to the standards of the British Museum, the remains of adhesive mounts raises the possibility that they were liberated by ISIS or some similar group from a 2nd rate museum or display somewhere. They could just as easily be fakes but I am not convinced that was determined. All I know is that this fella is probably in over his head and should stay away from the antiquity and forgery mafia he's apparently started dabbling with.
     
  11. memeni

    memeni Member

    Ahaha. İ would have told you something but i cant since this is viewed by the public. Everyone starts from somewhere. And yes nothing is certain.
     
  12. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    This. Exactly.
     
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  13. NLL

    NLL Well-Known Member

    Serious at what?
     
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  14. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

    For me the granulation of the surfaces makes me hesitant to accept them as genuine.
     
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  15. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    I'm not really sure about any of these. Apparently there are a lot of owls on the market right now. Keep in mind that this type is known for plentiful forgeries. If you are not sure I would advise to get your money back if you can and return the coins.
     
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  16. usmc 6123

    usmc 6123 Active Member

    you kill me
     
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  17. Silverlock

    Silverlock Well-Known Member

    The coins are fake. What would be needed to turn them into real coins is obvious: they would need to be minted 2500 years ago by the Athenians. What’s the point of this post?
     
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  18. PlanoSteve

    PlanoSteve Well-Known Member

    He wants to know how to make them better so he can pass off future versions as real!
     
  19. AngelDeath

    AngelDeath Well-Known Member

    They are fake not bad, but together its easy to make the call without them in hand. owl.jpg front.jpg
     
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  20. Chuck_A

    Chuck_A Well-Known Member

    I'm a newer member and I study a lot, read this forum and as many references as I can find in any given topics I like and I definitely feel "less than qualified" even though I have asked for help and made a few comments in the forum I sometimes feel out of place. It takes an incredible amount of time and research/resources to learn this great hobby including the best and worst posts otherwise it would be like a "good old boys club" with a secret code /handshake /etc. to get inside. I like this site and truly appreciate all the members here willing to help with questions and donating their time and expertise to further the hobby in a positive direction.
    Thank You
     
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  21. HaleiwaHI

    HaleiwaHI Active Member

    I can see a dozen ways this conversation could have ended better.
    1) we all need a sense of humor. Response #1 was priceless, but then things went downhill after that.
    2) Any time you purchase coins that you don't know are real or not, wouldn't it seem to be in your best interest to check what the coins are made out of? Always have a PM verifier on hand to validate your purchase.
    3) Are you buying from a reliable source?
    4) Has that source verified how he knows these coins are not re-makes? What story did he use to convince you that they were real?
    5) As a ancient coin buyer, is there any wear and tear on the coins or were they all suppose to be uncirculated?
    6) If they're all uncirculated and so valuable, why didn't he have them authenticated and graded?
    These are just some of the questions that should be running through your mind on any purchase. Learn how to buy before you buy! This forum is just the education you need.
     

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