1985 Italian Proof Set

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  1. masterswimmer

    masterswimmer A Caretaker, can't take it with me

    Hoping to determine mintage and possibly value?

    @petronius

    Thanks for any help....

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  3. Chris B

    Chris B Supporter! Supporter

    My 2018 Krause says mintage of 15000 and $75.
     
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  4. masterswimmer

    masterswimmer A Caretaker, can't take it with me

    Thanks Chris. Now what is Krause? 50 years of US coin collecting and my daughter brought this home as a gift for me while on her honeymoon. Not familiar with the term Krause.

    Thnx
     
  5. Steve66

    Steve66 Coin People

    Krause = world coin catalog

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  6. masterswimmer

    masterswimmer A Caretaker, can't take it with me

    @Steve66 thank you.

    FYI, no mention of Krause anywhere on that cover :(
    Maybe kp is Krause Publications?
     
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  7. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Technically that's not a Krause publication per se, but it uses the Krause-Mishler catalog system. You'll note almost every coin has a KM catalog number assigned to it. Some countries, however, have a Y for yeoman. That catalog has the most extensive printed KM database. I do believe Krause was part of the original catalog, but don't quote me on that.
     
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  8. petronius

    petronius Duke

    Hi @masterswimmer, I apologize for delay, but I read only now.

    Mintage is quiet correct, the exact number is 15385 ;)

    But $ 75 is too high for me. This is a recent ebay auction, and the item was sold for € 36 (around $ 40).

    https://www.ebay.it/itm/NL-ITALIA-D...037525?hash=item23bb49e515:g:NBkAAOSwupBchonp

    The seller is a well known and renowed Italian dealer, so his price is surely correct. And also in the past, the prices were around this amount. You can see here some auction results since 1994

    https://numismatica-italiana.lamoneta.it/passaggi/W-ITLD/2-10

    I hope your daughter did'nt pay too much, unfortunately could be possible in some stores :oops:

    Ciao
    petronius :)
     
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  10. masterswimmer

    masterswimmer A Caretaker, can't take it with me

    @petronius grazie

    It was a gift so I have no idea how much was paid. It's something I'll never sell. The fact that my daughter thought of me and my collecting passion is priceless.

    Ciao
     
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  11. mlov43

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    The Krause catalogs are being bought up by Penguin Publishing, I believe...

    No more "KP"
     
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  13. mlov43

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    For this edition. I think their new parent company is not actually Penguin but another publisher that owns a bunch of recipe mags and stuff like that. The SCWC will be this publishing company's only "collectibles" publication.
     
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  15. masterswimmer

    masterswimmer A Caretaker, can't take it with me

    Thank you. I am very fortunate to have a very caring, considerate and thoughtful young lady to call my daughter. Although, at 30 y/o she might not call herself young anymore. :)
     
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  16. petronius

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  17. kaparthy

    kaparthy Well-Known Member

    And thanks for sharing. You say that you collected US coins for 50 years and never heard of Krause. Fair enough. Despite my interest in foreigns, I never saw the proof set. We see these coins in the junk boxes all the time as circulated items. (The silver coins end up in silver junk boxes. I have a few of the caravels. The woman remains anonymous, but the ships are supposed to represent Columbus's Nina, Pinta, and Santa Maria.) But to see them in proof state was a new experience. They really are little works of art.
     
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  18. petronius

    petronius Duke

    Represents an idealized portrait of a woman of the Italian Renaissance. She was actually Letizia Savonitto, wife of the engraver Pietro Giampaoli, who portraied his wife as made another Italian engraver ;)

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    The ships are really the three Columbus's caravels, and Caravels is popularly named this coin in Italy. The engraver of reverse was Guido Veroi.

    petronius :)
     
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