Graded PL, but possibly DMPL?

Hey guys, just curious about this, I picked up this Morgan because the mirrors where a lot deeper than most PL's I've seen. I know the line between PL DPL DMPL is pretty thin and pretty much up to whoever is grading it. Ive even seen some PL coins not get the go ahead. Anyways, what do you guys think?

 

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This is another on of my PL's. Beautiful for sure but I feel like the 1880 S has much deeper mirrors

 

I think the face part might be way more frosted white with mirror fields to be DMPL. wait for more opinions....

 

I don't think either one would make DPL. How would they compare to this?

Chris

 

Nice coin! The 1881 wouldn't, but the 1880 S (first photos) have a reflective mirrors like yours.

 

I'm not so sure. Notice how the cameo on your image darkens completely across the lower part of the coin, including her neck and hair, but on mine, the bold, black letters stop across her neck and hair. Maybe it would be different if it were not in the slab. I don't know.

Chris

 

nicely said, I honestly didn't know that about the earlier S Morgans. I will keep that in mind when purchasing others in the future. I picked this one up because of that fact that it looked DMPL and it was at a very affordable price. I will take it up to the expo this winter too see.

 

Possibly just the angle and the slab, heres another pic I took. Nice Cameo frosty face and intense mirrors.

 

I forgot to mention that my other PL is an 1881 S. So I suppose they would be in the same category?

 

I still don't think so, but thanks for trying.

Chris

 

I agree that this is true, but if we're going to have grading standards, shouldn't they be standard? Just because there seem to be a lot of 1881-S Morgans with very shiny fields, it doesn't make sense to me that it should be harder for them to be labeled PL or DMPL than other dates.

It's worse than the TPGs calling AU coins UNC. In that case, they're saying a nice AU is worth "UNC money." But why should one variety with a particular level of "proofiness" be called PL and a different one not?

I guess the TPGs are trying to generate business by grading scarcer dates easier.

 

Indeed.

 

This is why I only go through PCGS and NGC

 

Of course, the slab does kinda throw things off.

 

The 80-S is hardly scarce with a mintage of 8.9 million, mostly well-struck specimens that came from the Treasury releases of the 60's.

Chris

Corrected the date.....Typo error.....Not a mint error though.

 

I know, they are beautiful coins and very affordable, the PL I think is a DMPL is an 1880 S though.

 

Oops! That was a typo on my part. I've corrected it to '80-S.

Chris

 

Well they're both pretty much in the same range haha.