I Got A Picture Taken With a Roman Emperor

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by David Atherton, Aug 3, 2019.

  1. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    ... or as close as realistically possible. Today I visited the Toledo Museum of Art and finally saw their famous marble bust of the emperor Domitian in the flesh (or parian marble).

    I also brought along a sestertius of Domitian to compare portraits.

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    A nearby curator must've wondered what in the world I was doing when I pulled the coin below from my top pocket and posed with the bust.


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    Domitian
    Æ Sestertius, 25.82g
    Rome mint, 81 AD
    RIC 78 (C2). BMC 261.
    Obv: IMP CAES DIVI VESP F DOMITIAN AVG P M; Head of Domitian, laureate, bearded, r.
    Rev: TR P COS VII DES VIII P P; S C in field; Minerva stg. l., with spear
    Acquired from Vilmar, December 2018.

    Also, the Classical Room has this beautiful Roman mosaic in the centre.

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    I had a most enjoyable afternoon wandering around the fine collection of art, both ancient and modern. Best of all, admission is free! I highly recommend the next time you are in Toledo to check it out.
     
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    That's cool and nice pics.
     
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  4. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Nice...face to face with Domitian. Great pictures David.
     
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  5. LakeEffect

    LakeEffect Average Circulated

    Interesting that his bio states he was so hated that most images of him were destroyed - yet one survives in Toledo. Also states that he may be wearing a wig.
     
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  6. dadams

    dadams Well-Known Member

    Excellent field trip! The hair curls on the marble bust are quite similar to those hair curls on your coin’s bust.
     
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  7. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    How fun! You'll have to go to the Capitoline Museum some time. Of course, they have so many busts that you'd have to bring your entire collection along with you!
     
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  8. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    Toledo, Spain or Toledo, Ohio? Looks a nice museum with good stuff and excellent explanation sign (don’t know about the receding jaw though). I do appreciate that gorgeous mosaic.
     
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  9. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Sorry, Toledo, OH. It really is a world class art museum with so much to see.

    This photo gives a better context of how the Domitian bust is displayed.

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    And here is one of my favourite paintings in the museum.

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    And I couldn't forget to get a photo of something my cat Hershey would appreciate.

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  10. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Well, I collect only three emperors, so it would be quite doable!
     
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  11. thejewk

    thejewk Well-Known Member

    Is that Lucius Verus on the right?

    Great pictures!
     
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  12. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Great pictures, David. I really need to get over to Toledo - it's not that far away from me. I'd heard rumors about their great art museum, but until I saw your photos, I had no idea it was that good.
     
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  13. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Yes! There is also a great portrait bust opposite Domitian of a 'Flavian Lady' which for some inexplicable reason I didn't take a picture of.
     
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  14. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Neither did I! My pictures don't do the museum justice. It is really worth a day trip whenever you get a chance.
     
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  15. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Cool selfie with Domitian. Did he have any words of wisdom for you?

    That L. Verus bust is nice as well.
     
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  16. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Yes, 'You can never have enough mirrors!'.
     
  17. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    You had Lucius Verus in the same display as Domitian and you didn't take a photo next to him? Sad. :(

    Here's my Lucius Verus

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    and my latest Domitian....

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  18. Archeocultura

    Archeocultura Well-Known Member

    One of my Domitian coins. 5 nr 0000 Domitianus Saeculares as 2_edited-5.jpg
     
  19. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    I visited the museum specifically to see the Domitian bust and had no idea there was a Lucius Verus bust too. Besides, I collect only Flavian coins and do not have a L.V. coin to pose with.

    Perhaps another CTer with a L.V. coin can visit the TMA and pose with it?
     
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  20. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    That's a most beautiful Van Gogh painting! And I like Lucius Verus, too. But to return to Domitian, here's a portrait that is (if your take off Helios's golden rays) not unlike that marble bust.

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    AE Domitianus (81-96), Tralleis. Pseudo-autonomous. Kl. Meliton, magistrate. Obv.: Radiate and draped bust of Helios right, looking like Domitian. Rev.: Cult statue of Artemis-Ephesia facing. 18 mm, 4.06 gr. Tralleis is a town in the west of what's now Turkey, near Aydın.
     
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  21. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Before I took anything old into a museum, I would contact them and see if I could avoid any ugliness with a guard who may not be aware that such things are not all in museums. Depending on the curator's attitude toward private collectors, you might meet someone interesting and even get a behind the scenes tour. My local museum has no Domitian marble but I did have an interesting talk about their Caligula (old) and Septimius Severus (various pieces with lots of restoration from a couple centuries ago).
     
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