Thinking of buying this - Opinions ?

Well, both of the coins are coming up for auction so by posting these coins, you've potentially increased your competition and the price or drawn attention to another member's target. Or, as may be the case with the first coin, dissuaded others from bidding if they believe it is tooled.

Next time pick a member or two to ask by private message when wanting an opinion on a coin that is being auctioned.

 

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Not I. If I were a journeyman coin tooler, I would do what I thought I could do and slip it by the buyers rather than tooling every fault making it obvious that it was done by someone not quite up to being undetected. Are there masters of tooling who can slip things by the British Museum and NGC (among others)? We can prove that there are toolers who can't fool the CT crowd but we can never prove that the better thing does not exist. If I were to tool a coin, I would feel lucky to improve one hair. Knowing how to mix truth and lies is so a dangerous a skill we coined a word for it - "Politics".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emanuel_Ninger
If you read the above link, don't miss:
"Notably, he omitted the line crediting the Bureau of Engraving and Printing from all of his bills,[3][7] and some of them were also missing the counterfeiting warning.[7] When asked why he omitted the Bureau of Engraving and Printing credit on his bills, Ninger responded, "Because dey [sic] didn't make dem [sic]."[8]

 

And then it would look like this one:

 

Not sure I should be thanking you or not, you did your fair share of helping the potential for competition. Next time please send me a private message, like you suggested to me.

 

New members eventually learn the CoinTalk rule of etiquette not to post about coins currently up for sale. If the coin is a determined to be good deal, others may grab it first, or bid higher. As was noted, if someone else had their eye on it, discussing it favorably would irritate them by likely raising the auction price. Our member gently informed you, and by mentioning it here, other new members, to avoid calling attention to coins currently offered on the internet. (If it were at a local coin shop or offered privately, unavailable to the rest of us, that would be different.) A private message would help only one person and perhaps be resented. Posting the CoinTalk rule of etiquette here helps many people.

 

There is only ways we can 'enforce' the rule of etiquette. Stop being 'nice' and helping people who post active sale coins. Either state we do not discuss active sales before closing or just ignore them.

Trying to help and getting it thrown back in your face is a case for using the hard 'ignore'. I encourage all those here who do not find this offensive to place an 'ignore' on my posts. We have nothing to discuss.

 

If this is what you do to well meaning and generous people like @TIF who is merely trying to help, then you have earned your spot on my ignore list.

 

My point was to say thank you for the advice. Also say well you just told everyone here that the coin I was asking about is in a current auction and now there is a better chance of competition than before your post and would have been better if they sent a private message to lessen the competition . Really regret even asking for help here now, I am to be ignored and am no use to this community now.

 

If you post a coin and say "looking at buying this" - as you did in your first post .. you are stating it's for sale. Would not be difficult for any experienced collector to find out where it is for sale....images can be searched, major auctions checked - just takes a couple of minutes...No one to blame but yourself.
I am not one for unwritten rules but I am one for taking responsibility for your actions. You post a coin that is for sale somewhere you are taking your chances.

As for blaming others that tried to provide advice..well that speaks for itself.

 

Ok thanks . I shall delete my membership here and sorry for the problems.

 

Most members here are so helpful that they take a huge amount of time out of their day to guide so many of us on a regular basis. They are awesome. Just don't blame those that are trying to help.
Maybe just discuss coins, show coins and contribute in any small way.. I don't put people on ignore. I hope you will stay and give it a try - but that is up to you.

 

Dear @bcuda ,
I suggest you stay a member. Watch threads for a while. Then, when you feel comfortable, join in. How could you know our unwritten guidelines until someone told you? Don't feel bad and don't take offense. In a short while this will be forgotten and you will enjoy the forum.