Extreme die polish marks on Wyoming State Quarter

As @Heavymetal requested it, here is the quarter(s) in question. These are old pics, as Meow took them a year ago. And the quarters are deeply stashed in the Cat hoard already. Look VERY carefully at the three pictures, they are of three DIFFERENT coins.
Another indicator is that there is a grease spot under the back side under Washington's jaw. Notice how its gets bigger in every coin. So Meow has been trolled by folk who say those pictures are of the same coin. They are not all the same coin.
Meow does not need to hear any naysayers or negative comments. As Meow went out this cats way to show folk this interesting find.
And yes, Meow would not believe it too even under close inspection. Meow was mad when this coin came out of s supposed OBW, and thought it was tampered. But after two more came out the roll, Meow realized this was something real and interesting.
Also, notice only the first coin has a fairly large stain on Washington's face and neck.
And, Only the third coin has a decent bag mark on the tendon in Washington's neck. The first one has only a little bit. The second one has no bag marks at all in that place.

 

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that's neat. something scratched that die up. possibly a mishap inside the dies before it got to those?

 

Meow could only imagine what the cause is. It really looks like PMD, but it cant be, due to the evidence.

 

Looks like a Mint employee deliberately scratched the Die.

 

I don't think they are the same coin.

Chris

 

Meow

 

Are the scratches raised? They should be, like a die crack, if they’re mint-induced.

 

Yes?

Meow cant tell, they are too fine. But is has to be. No one can scratch three quarters over a hundred times and have them be identical?
These quarters were found a year ago, they are deep in the Cat Hoard now.
Meow just showed them because @FoundinTN made a thread about something similar.

Yes, what is it?

 

It has to be a wire brush was used on the die.

 

They look incuse to me, and not raised, which would imply PMD to me. Also, anything is possible with coins, so I wouldn’t rule that out. Get your paws on a stronger magnifying glass. You have a 10x loupe, yes? If not, drop the catnip and go buy one off amazon. Also, the lighting could use some work. Try to use two lights at the 10 and 2 o’clock to reduce glare. For best photos, put a 10x loupe in front of your kittyphone and snap some shots.

 

Well, the pics are over a year old so Meow did not know as much on taking pic of coins then. This is the best Meow can do, Meow does not have a phone to take pics with. Sorry. Beside how can anyone fake scratches on three coins this intricately. Just look how many scratches are in the same place on every coin. Look Meow just wanted to share for @FoundinTN s post. If you think its possible to fake it, try it. Post a pic of your copy of what you see. It cannot be done. Maybe a jeweler in prison for life might have the time to do it. But then how did they get the 3 coins in a OBW roll? And.....Why do it in the first place? For some reason someone at the mint decided to wire brush a die, to see what happens. That's all Meow can say.

 

All 3 coins have the same pattern of marks so that would indicate die polish (more like die grinding in this case ). Probably done by the new guy on the night shift. Somebody wasn't doing their job the day that happened.

I'm guessing the lines will be raised. Unless meow was using them as a scratching post.

Interesting, but they probably don't carry much, if any premium. Might want to look and see if you can find the damage the tech was trying to grind away

 

Maybe it was deep scratch that was foolishly sanded harshly to remove it. Oh, and Meow need not say, as it is almost a given. This is a P mint coin. Meow is pretty sure Denver guys know better than to do this.

 

Another thing Meow wanted to add. There are even more scratches than the photos show. Some of the scratches disappear at certain angles of light. Look at Washington's chin in the three single shots; Five wisps come from the chin, and one touches the U, the rest go under the U.
And in the pic with all three coins next to each other, those wisps disappear. But, five or so wisps go from his chin pointing down diagonal to the B in Liberty. These are just freaky coins. Meow has them in labeled holders, and plan not to separate them. As only with its triplet siblings can this be established easily as a mint error, and not PMD.

 

Very neat looking. Cool find.

 

Thanks @Shrews1994 !

 

I think you’ve been around long enough to know the difference. The pictures just don’t do it justice. Would love to see more. You can put a 10x loupe in front of most cameras and still manage a decent shot.

 

The scratches in the fields on these quarters do, indeed, appear to be identical. I think they are die scratches. They even go right up to the chin and stop which would be characteristic for a die scratch.


However, the scratches within the bust, while similar, are not identical. (some are but others have unique features).
That would lead me to believe that they are unrelated to the scratches in the fields and thus are not die scratches.

If they are die scratches, I have no idea as to what abrading methods were used to place them in the deep bust recess.

 

Meow would disagree, as the scratches are VERY similar if not identical, and have the same shape and lines etc. There is NO WAY any of this is random. Only on the front cheek is it different, probably due to bag marks etc.

Look, Meow does not want to get rude about it. But Meow did not put this up for debate. This is put up as reference to @FoundinTN s post. And as a request by @Heavymetal . Meow specifically asked to not hear any naysayers or negative comments. Just yesterday alone Meow put 3 Members on ignore. Meow did this as service to the members here. And did not, and does not want or need any comments of its validity. This happened the first time Meow posted these coins, and it was such a headache. Meow should of known better that this time would be no different.

 

I think there's a problem in our society where people think they have a right to say whatever they wish, but also have the right to demand no one question what they say, or suggest something otherwise. That is not how we carry out civilized discourse and the very idea is counter-intuitive to learning.

For the record, I'm not debating you about the coin, neither is @Pete Apple , we're simply telling you our opinions on the coin, based on the photos we see and our knowledge of the minting process. Your photos do not convince me that the scratches are raised, and has me questioning whether it's mint-induced. Whether I choose to believe your opinion is my choice, and so is whether I choose to voice that opinion. The moment you posted the coins on CT, you opened up the floor for discussion. If you feel the need to ignore people simply because they've taken part in the discussion, with an effort to come to a proper conclusion on the coin, then that is your prerogative.

I hope you have a great day.