Have you seen a PR 70 Rainbow Toner Before? Now you will (Ike)

In my many coin searches, I have not come across a true 70 graded toner. There have been a few Silver Eagles in gassed slabs and one nickel that was talked about on here and the person who messed with it even came on to promise to make us see the truth (shocker: he never did!).

This is the first one that I have seen that does not show anything clearly wrong.

Do you all agree that it looks legitimate?
Any thoughts on why there aren't more PR/MS 70 toners?

If you're wondering, this one sold for $1,805.

 

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Very nice but I wouldn't pay that price for it.

 

I don’t see anything wrong with the coin as it stands, but I don’t see how it could have been graded PR70 DCAM as it sits. Could it have toned legitimately in the slab? I wouldn’t count out the possibility it was messed with.

 

Looks legit to me. I've seen plenty of the silver proof Ikes with blue toning. This one just got some really nice other colors too.

 

NO!

 

Yes,

 

No way would I ever pay that price. Someone went crazy for a registry set I am guessing they had to have it.

 

+1

 

I don't have a problem with the 70. I just don't see how anyone can call it DCAM as it is (even though we all know pretty much all proof Ikes are DCAM).

 

No, it isn't. The frost must be unbroken for both CAM and DCAM. The difference is in the level of contrast between the fields and the devices. See this image, taken from https://www.pcgs.com/news/a-look-at-pcgs-designations.



I don't see DCAM contrast on that PR70 Ike as it sits.

 

Excellent example of cameo progression. Problem is, so many are "tweeners", could go either way. Judgment call, or just go with the grader's opinion?

 

I agree in principle, but, for this coin, the toning obscures the frost (particularly on the lower reverse near ONE DOLLAR) to such an extent that I don't see how they awarded it DCAM based on the appearance of the coin itself. Yes, as I mentioned, almost all proof Ikes will be DCAM, but you can't just fall back to that when awarding the designation; you have to look at the coin.

 

I don’t know about the 70 grade. But it’s pretty. Not spectacular in my opinion. Personally I’d rather have a pretty 69. I find almost all ms /pr 70s debatable. As are they really truly flawless

 

Really how much difference is there between that 70 and my 69

 

I don't think we can really get an accurate guess of the contrast based on these pictures. The toning makes that even more difficult.

 

No, it isn’t.

Notice how I never said a 70 can’t be toned or that a toned coin can’t get DCAM? I’m referring to this one, specific coin.

Well, mail me the coin and I’ll make my final evaluation. I’m standing by my post given the available information.