1886 Morgan Dollar - What do you think she would grade? VAM?

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  1. Ike Skywalker

    Ike Skywalker Well-Known Member

    This is the absolute best Morgan that was included in my father's coin collection, which he divided between my brother and I. What do you guys/gals think she would grade? I haven't attempted to VAM her yet either, so please feel free to do so. I look forward to hearing your thoughts and opinions. NOTE: When you click on the images they will blow up in your face. :D

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  3. ddoomm1

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  4. Penna_Boy

    Penna_Boy Just a nobody from the past

    MS 64. If you get it slabbed please come back and tell us the result.
     
  5. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    A very looking Morgan. A strong 64+ I would think. Very clean and nice original toning which great eye appeal. A handsome addition to any collection.
     
  6. PlanoSteve

    PlanoSteve Well-Known Member

    Very nice looking Morgan, even with the slight toning (not a big fan of toning :().

    Not a real Vammer, but I believe this might be a 1A (bar above the bowl in "6").

    I am troubled by what appears to me to be mounting damage to the rims at:
    - U & M in UNUM
    - directly across from Libertys nose
    - under D & O in DOLLAR
    - at eagles right wing tip

    Other places on the edge are questionable, but if it was mounted, it didn't get much wear, since it is an excellent specimen otherwise. AAAAA+ :happy::happy::happy:
     
  7. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I've owned certified 66's that don't look this good. MS67!

    Chris
     
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  8. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I am at gem. That is a very perty Morgan.
    Very minor scuffing on the cheek and fields and Eagles breast. I could see it better than a 65 depends on the rim dings.
     
  9. GenX Enthusiast

    GenX Enthusiast Forensic grammatician

    I'll go minimum 65, and then I'm going to ask @cpm9ball if he'll grade all my Morgans for me;)
     
  10. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Sure! As soon as I finish what I'm doing.
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    Chris
     
  11. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    While this is a quite attractive coin, you have to recognize that this is also an extreemly common coin, even in very high grades.

    The strike on yours shows weakness in the hairlines - enough to preclude a 67 grade.

    The luster appears quite good (as you'd expect). The luster appears consistent with a 65 grade, maybe slightly higher.

    The eye appeal of this piece is nice - nothing great, nothing negative. It is a good looking coin, but won't get a bump in either direction for its eye appeal.

    Contact marks: There are a few whispy marks on the obverse which won't significantly detract from the coin. There is a very significant mark on the reverse, however, in the field under the left wing of the eagle.

    To me, this looks like a solid 65, with a shot at a low end 66. It's a nice coin, no doubt about it - and right one the borderline of being worth submitting. If you are sure it would get 66, it's worth it, if not, don't. (there are 5500 graded 66, so.... really, really common).
     
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  12. Ike Skywalker

    Ike Skywalker Well-Known Member

    A very well thought-out and thorough assessment, as usual. I don’t plan to send in for grading. I trust members’ opinions here to narrow down and pinpoint a grade. Personally, I think it would get 65.
     
  13. Ike Skywalker

    Ike Skywalker Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the VAM info. I’m gonna check it out and compare.
     
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  14. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    I'm in the 65 camp with a chance of a 66 due to the clean fields/cheek. It would need more "flash" or "pop" to get to 67.

    It's a cool piece to have from your father's collection. :)
     
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  15. Bman33

    Bman33 Well-Known Member

    65 came right to mind, then I clicked on the photo and it blew up in my face, and I went 64. I'm going back to 65 because that kind of magnification is not used. Great Coin!
     
  16. C-B-D

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  17. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    Nice Morgan 66
     
  18. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    Probably MS65. It's VAM 1A, which is a Top 100 variety, although not rare.
     
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  19. Ike Skywalker

    Ike Skywalker Well-Known Member

    I will update my photo to include the VAM. Thanks. @PlanoSteve - you were right. ;)
     
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  20. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    I'm on the MS65 wagon....
     
  21. Santinidollar

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    65, perhaps 65 plus.
     
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