During a discussion with another cointalk member just recently I misunderstood as he was speaking about a 1983D ddo. I read his reply as 1983D ddr and went off on a journey ,albeit a short journey, to find this variety of which spoke of, or so I thought. I knew of the 83D DDO and also the the one coin I've been searching since day one of my hobby was the elusive 1983phili DDR, so i was surprised to hear about this . It just so happens i had a bag of 83 D pennies and after a quik pass I found one beat up cent that to me could have a chance but I wasnt gonna get my hopes up( the jury is still out). Then this morning while preparing for work I noticed a half empty penny roll from the other day and proceeded to finish what I had started earlier in the week. The first coin I plucked from the small mound of zinc I poured under my light was low and behold a 1983 D. With the confusion of the DDR still fresh in my head I went directly to the reverse and was immediately surprised. With the naked eye I could see some very interesting mishapen and plump Lettering. I think to myself, my fellow member was right and I'm not mistaken. Such wasn't the case, upon reviewing our conversation I saw a reply about where to see pictures of the 83D ddo, now I knew I was mistaken after all. I clicked on the link and there on the screen was the obverse of the coin I had in my hand. I've yet to find images of the reverse side of the 83D, all I have is my own and nothing to reference to. So to cut this short I ask, what's up the reverse of the 83D? Is it DDR? Am I a not only half whit but struggling with a vision disorder as well? Take look and if any owners of this variety or any seasoned members have the answers I'm looking for please respond, and those who feel like taking a jab at my lame identification abilities go ahead, I'm pretty thicked skinned and need to hear the cold hard truth if I'm gonna learn anything. Thanks everyone. And as always, my equipment is what I call crap grade so I apologize for the rough pictures, one day I will equipy self properly, I promise.
First what DDO do you think this one is? Second if there was a DDR matched with one of the obverse dies it would be noted on the variety sites. The coin you are showing is very blurry. But it looks like DDD.
I know, I'll see about a better picture, like I said in this and all my post I do my best. I've checked the coin against a couple of sites and it checks out, hopefully I can get an image that will satisfy, if not I'd just be happy finding the image online I'm looking for. Do you have a reference the reverse of an 83d DDO #1?
I have all the references one thing to note is which site are you referring to? FS-101 is the second listing on Wexler. But referred to as DDO-001 on Variety Vista.
You deleted part of the quote and then added to it. It didn't distinguish between the quote and your response. What sight are you using as a reference? This is not DDO-001 on VV. Also the 83 and 83D was a transitional year coin and well searched and studied. If there was an 83D DDR then one would have been found. What you have is most likely a form of worthless doubling.
Well if you are referencing Variety Vista. There are some things that the coin is missing. 1. The doubled ear. 2. The MM placement. I can barely make out a die crack on your coin. But it doesn't look the same shape and size. http://www.varietyvista.com/01b LC Doubled Dies Vol 2/1983DDDO001.htm I looked at Wexler Wddo--001 and the style of doubling and MM placement are wrong also. https://doubleddie.com/307743.html We cannot use only part of the markers we have to use them all when attributing a variety. I am not trying to be mean or a buzz kill. These are die markers they do not change. These markers are part of the die. And will be present on all the coins struck. Just trying to help.
Here's the best I can do. I think it looked off because I can't match the exact level angle in the sites . But these are awful pics but it's all I can give. I know you yourry convince with you stance and that's fine, I would be to . I don't anyone could be able to identify bthe variety with these photos with out the coin in hand, if you were holding it you'd probably have a different opinion.
I can't express in text my sincere appreciation, I do respect your knowledge and the time and effort you've spent gaining it. I don't want you thinking I'm being in any way defiant or unreceptive of your help or your dedication to accurate assessment. I know you're not out to just bash me or anyone . Just wanted to say that, things written can be taken as sarcasm or disrespect with out a face and voice to carry the language, I've found that to be the case sometimes, in no way did I take anything you said as a bash and I hope you know I wouldn't act as such towards you or anyone being helpful. There's been times in the past when out of frustration I've gone the route of a beligerant jerk, I've learned that doing so does nothing but make others angry and bitter and make me look arrogant and disrespectful. So thank you very kindly. You've been awesome man .
Here is Copper coins if you don't have it. It doesn't show any cross references to Variety Vista. It does show 1 reference to Wexler -001. Don't mind the 98 in the photo the reference is correct. https://coppercoins.com/diesearch.php
I know you won't find these in any way beneficial to making a solid identification , I just felt they deserved a spot with all my other fuzzy pictures, lol. Thanks again for everything, hopefully next time I'll have better gear for taking photos. Til next time,take care !
